Were 45's ever sold sealed?

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Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by zeppelinfloyd95 » 31 Jan 2015 13:47

I'm wondering if 45's were ever sealed and sold as such. I was at a local record store yesterday and I picked up about 8 or 9 45's. Three of them were by Badfinger. Badfinger was a British band that began in 1969 and had major hits like "Come and Get It", "No Matter What", "Day After Day" and "Baby Blue". I got each of these. Anyway, as I was looking through the hundreds of other 45's I found a "Day After Day" sealed in a loose plastic bag. I have never seen a sealed 45 and I'm wondering if this was sealed later on or if they were ever sealed to begin with.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by Mark E Smith's Dentist » 31 Jan 2015 13:56

I've got a sealed jukebox 7" from the '60s. I think it was sealed to keep the little paper jukebox labels all together - they'd easily fall out otherwise.

Apart from that I've never seen a sealed 7" but that's not to say they weren't sealed for export or maybe by distributors.


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Post by ehtoo » 31 Jan 2015 15:04

That Badfinger was sealed after the fact which, is not a problem in it's own right as it may have kept it relatively clean. The only problem is that you were not able to inspect it.

The seal material appears to be a polypropelene which is the first clue. The second is the knowledge that record companies were not going to waste money in what was a cheaply produced product; that was also a low dollar sale. If you don't already know, a 45 was made with "waste" or scrap vinyl and in essence was intended to sell the larger album where the profit could be found.

Collectors are the only people interested in sealing a 45 RPM and that was done to keep greasy mitts off their collectables. FYI, the only 45's I've ever encountered that were sealed were usually imports from the UK in the late 70's early 80's during the punk/new wave period when independent record companies went wild with graphic design and pic sleeves. But I'm sure that was only for the export market. Some of our UK brethren will need to weigh in on that one.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by zeppelinfloyd95 » 31 Jan 2015 18:04

ehtoo wrote:That Badfinger was sealed after the fact which, is not a problem in it's own right as it may have kept it relatively clean. The only problem is that you were not able to inspect it.
I thought that it was probably sealed after the fact too but I took a chance anyway. It only cost $1. I'm undecided on whether or not I will open it up since I can listen to both songs on the album they came on.

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Post by Rob998 » 31 Jan 2015 18:59

I have some indie 7"s that came in a plain paper sleeve, with a wrap around picture "sleeve" and all this was put in a soft clear plastic bag, but they were never sealed.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by vinyl master » 01 Feb 2015 05:54

I bought these from European sources, and they came sealed like this...

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This was older, but also still sealed...

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And then, newer stuff like this JD McPherson disc came sealed, but in tight wrap, not a loose bag...

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Of course, they are mostly newer records, and maybe that has something to do with it...I, too, though, have some old jukebox 33's still sealed with the title strips, album pics, etc.

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Post by zeppelinfloyd95 » 01 Feb 2015 12:10

I may never know if it was originally sealed but here's an Elvis 45 that is sealed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STILL-SEALED-w- ... 7675.l2557

This could have been sealed later on though.

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Post by The Gryphon » 01 Feb 2015 13:19

As a European resident for 50+ years ....I can say that it was rare for 45s to be sold sealed but it has been the case on occasion......mostly it was in the 80s or so and by independent companies.......some imports into Europe were sealed again it was rare .

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Post by Rob998 » 01 Feb 2015 14:29

Actually, thinking back, quite a long way back actually because it's years since I habitually bought 7" singles, I seem to remember some ltd edition stuff coming sealed, signed stuff and boxed singles and things like that. Imports too, with the green import sticker on the plastic wrap. Not general release stuff though.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by KentT » 15 Mar 2019 02:22

Some department stores and discount stores put their overstock and cutouts in polybags and sold them 3/$1.00 or 4/$1.00. I think this is what the original poster has for 45 RPM singles (those same titles I bought that way also back then).

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Post by Spinner45 » 15 Mar 2019 02:42

As an old 65 year old fart, I have never, ever, come across a "sealed" 45 RPM single.
And I bought plenty of them over the years.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by circularvibes » 15 Mar 2019 03:32

Here in Canada I remember special editions, UK imports in picture sleeves and picture discs were commonly sealed at my local Flipside/Music WorldA&A location. I even remeber a couple that were sealed in heavy vinyl like picture disc sleeves that had a perforated tear line to get to the record. I don't know if this was done by the factory or the chain. Record Store Day 7' record are mostly sealed, even without being an unusual edition or in picture sleeves.

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Post by KentT » 21 May 2019 03:43

Many US department stores sold off the Top 40, and overstock 45 RPM singles 3/$1.00 or 4/$1.00 in sealed polybags up to the early 1980's. Sealed by the store, not factory sealed. I bought many 45 RPM singles this way.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by tobyKenobi » 21 May 2019 11:13

ehtoo wrote:
31 Jan 2015 15:04
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FYI, the only 45's I've ever encountered that were sealed were usually imports from the UK in the late 70's early 80's during the punk/new wave period when independent record companies went wild with graphic design and pic sleeves. But I'm sure that was only for the export market. Some of our UK brethren will need to weigh in on that one.
As someone who bought a load of 45s in the UK in that period they did indeed go wild on 7" sleeve design (printed plastic sleeves, inside-out, gatefold, etc) but I never bought one that had been factory sealed.

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Re: Were 45's ever sold sealed?

Post by josephazannieri » 21 May 2019 13:13

Yo seekers of the sealed:

I have a sealed 7" 45 RPM EP record issued on the Odeon label. It features my favorite mezzo-soprano, Nan Merriman. Odeon was a branch of the EMI combine. The record was issued later in Merriman's career after she moved from Los Angeles to Amsterdam and forsook RCA for EMI. It is in what appears to be miniature 12" LP cardboard cover with a head shot of her on the cover and extensive notes on the music on the back of the cover. The slot for the record is oriented horizontally rather than vertically, with a paper envelope inside the cardboard cover.

The record is not a typical 45 with a bog hole in the center, It has a 1/4 inch hole in the center, and breakaway holes which allow the 1/4 inch hole to be removed and replaced with a big hole so the record can be played on big- hole 45 RPM changers.

The personnel are the London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Walter Susskind, with Alexander Young (tenor), and Elizabeth Fretwell (soprano), with Marie Goosens (harp soloist). The music is excerpts from Rossini's Otello including the Gondolier Song and Assisa a' pie' d'un sa'lice. Number is Odeon 7EP 7111.

Apparently produced in England. This is of course not popular material, nor is it something that would be commonly available, but it did come sealed, and I expect that there were other similar records produced.

And good luck from that sealed up old guy,

Joe Z.

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