Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

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Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by cbray37 » 11 Jan 2019 09:10

Currently using an Ortofon VMS20e mk2 stylus which I’ve had for many many years. The sound still seems pretty good so I’ve no reason to think it’s worn out. But as I’m now retired and have time to play a lot more vinyl again I was wondering if I should just replace the stylus to protect my albums.

So, is that a good idea and if so, suggestions for what to replace it with ? VMS 3E has been suggested.

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by nopiano » 11 Jan 2019 09:45

The UK importer doesn’t suggest the VMS3e for your cartridge and the original replacement for yours is no longer made. Would you consider treating yourself to a brand new cartridge for your retirement?

If so, I’m sure folk here will make suggestions if you tell us your arm and turntable details. You are used to quite a mellow sound which is less common these days, though a Grado Black 2 is quite rounded off, but not a subtle as your Ortofon.

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by Japi Roelofs » 11 Jan 2019 10:53

Thakker still sells an original stylus for the VMS 20E MKII, but it's not cheap...

https://www.thakker.eu/en/needles/ortof ... us/a-5898/

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by cbray37 » 11 Jan 2019 10:55

Thanks for the reply. I’m not averse to treating myself to a new cartridge 😉. I know my set-up isn’t high end, the deck is only a Technics SLQ2 which I’ve had forever 😀.

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by cbray37 » 11 Jan 2019 10:56

Thanks Japi. 😉

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by Peter Smart » 11 Jan 2019 15:22

The VMS 20e mk ii is one of my best experiences during my 40 - 50 years with hifi. One reason is the nude elliptical diamond. You can still get it, but it it not cheap!

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by nopiano » 11 Jan 2019 21:21

cbray37 wrote:
11 Jan 2019 10:55
Thanks for the reply. I’m not averse to treating myself to a new cartridge 😉. I know my set-up isn’t high end, the deck is only a Technics SLQ2 which I’ve had forever 😀.
For a Technics I’d typically suggest an Audio Technica - such as https://eu.audio-technica.com/cartridge ... /AT-VM95EN
...but they tend to be rather brighter and ‘exciting’, whereas your old Ortofon is pretty soft and smooth. An Ortofon 2M Red is the mellowest of the 2M range, but the stylus isn’t as sophisticated as your VMS20e. https://www.ortofon.com/ortofon-2m-red-p-317-n-1579

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by nopiano » 11 Jan 2019 21:40

Japi Roelofs wrote:
11 Jan 2019 10:53
Thakker still sells an original stylus for the VMS 20E MKII, but it's not cheap...

https://www.thakker.eu/en/needles/ortof ... us/a-5898/
Good call, I’d not realised that was even available. Not too costly considering what newer Ortofon models cost nowadays.

However, I’m not sure the VMS20e is actually that well matched to the Technics, as I’d have thought the arm was a bit too high mass for a one gram tracker with quite high compliance. But back in the day I think some quite high end MM cartridges found they way into these turntables.

And far be it for me to deter a currently happy customer!

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Re: Replace Ortofon vms20e mk2 ?

Post by Peter Smart » 12 Jan 2019 09:34

I have read some who have tried the new Jico replacements. They are described to sound as well as the originals, but with a lower compliance.

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