New Technics SL1200 MK7

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by chiz » 09 Jan 2019 20:03

BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 18:35
I must say I'm very impressed that they were able to get the price of the 1200 Mk7 down to only $1200. For a real Technics, brand new, made in Japan, that is a steal. I'm sure there will be people who complain that it's too expensive and they will cite the fact that they can get a Stanton/Pioneer/Reloop/Vestax for $400-$600, but you get what you pay for. If Pioneer brought production of the PLX-1000 to Japan and made them in-house with higher quality materials and superb quality control, there is no way they'd be able to sell it for $699. It would probably be $1200. So I hope the naysayers will eventually come to appreciate that Technics is trying very hard to offer a turntable that is within reach of working professionals, while at the same time refusing to compromise on what makes a Technics a Technics.
The MK2 was $350 RRP when launched in 1979 which with inflation is close to $1200 today.

The MK7 appears to be made in Malaysia:
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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by BMRR » 09 Jan 2019 20:30

Thanks for the picture. Personally I have no problem with stuff made in Malaysia. I have a lot of Panasonic products made there... TVs, Blu-Ray players, microwaves, etc. They've all been great quality and have lasted a long time. My Panasonic microwave made there is almost 15 years old and still works great.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 09 Jan 2019 23:28

BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 19:03
Yeah, I'm not saying the Pioneer is bad; I'm saying the people who whine about the price of the Technics are being unrealistic. Lots of crybabies in other forums who wanted the Mk7 to be $400 or $600.
Hey I'm el cheapo Hanpin guy 8) ! I would have dumped my LP120 a long time ago if it didn't make me happy. I got one of the good ones, especially with all the tweaks.

Still, I have been eyeing an upgrade maybe in 2019. Maybe a Mk7. About the very top of my budget and then some. I do like the looks of it though. The other table I like is the Thorens TD-203($999), but that won't take all of my standard headshells. I like the PLX-1000 but I'm not going to just go up one model with Hanpin. Seems silly.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 10 Jan 2019 10:45

It seems to me the new Technics is a no brainer, the real thing for about 70% more than the next leading competitor's offering.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by lbls1 » 10 Jan 2019 11:59

As a new craft, I'm predicting it will be worth its asking price.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by VinylDan1 » 10 Jan 2019 20:04

Finding out that it is not made in Japan is a deal breaker for me. Will be saving for the GR.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 10 Jan 2019 22:46

"Finding out that it is not made in Japan is a deal breaker for me. Will be saving for the GR."

Why ? Whatever factory makes them there is still going to have to adhere to the specs and practices of Technics . I mean allot of cars get made in Mexico these days and those cars are not inferior because of that . The Toyota Corolla gets made there for North America for example .

I'm sure the GR is better but it's like $1000 more than this MK7 , that's allot of money if you're not well off .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 10 Jan 2019 23:08

Shadowman82 wrote:
10 Jan 2019 22:46
"Finding out that it is not made in Japan is a deal breaker for me. Will be saving for the GR."

Why ? Whatever factory makes them there is still going to have to adhere to the specs and practices of Technics . I mean allot of cars get made in Mexico these days and those cars are not inferior because of that . The Toyota Corolla gets made there for North America for example .

I'm sure the GR is better but it's like $1000 more than this MK7 , that's allot of money if you're not well off .
When Volkswagon opened their Mexico plant the quality went right in the toilet..sorry to say. Had one of each. Not saying the same for Technics though. I've seen the GR as low as $1,700.00.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 11 Jan 2019 01:33

Boltman92124 wrote:
10 Jan 2019 23:08
Shadowman82 wrote:
10 Jan 2019 22:46
"Finding out that it is not made in Japan is a deal breaker for me. Will be saving for the GR."

Why ? Whatever factory makes them there is still going to have to adhere to the specs and practices of Technics . I mean allot of cars get made in Mexico these days and those cars are not inferior because of that . The Toyota Corolla gets made there for North America for example .

I'm sure the GR is better but it's like $1000 more than this MK7 , that's allot of money if you're not well off .
When Volkswagon opened their Mexico plant the quality went right in the toilet..sorry to say. Had one of each. Not saying the same for Technics though. I've seen the GR as low as $1,700.00.
If you've seen the GR as low as $1700.00 you have not seen much, since that's MSRP. There's one guy reporting here that he purchased one from Guitar Center for about $1400.00 as I recall. I purchased one from B&H and got free shipping plus added value all together worth about $135.00 in savings.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by BMRR » 11 Jan 2019 22:21

Country of manufacture is irrelevant as far as quality is concerned. What matters is whether or not the company demands top quality from their suppliers and contractors. Take Apple as an example. My Apple MacBook Pro was made in China. It's 8 years old and still works perfectly. It's a well-built machine with exquisite fit and finish. If Apple moved production to Malaysia or Mexico or Thailand or anywhere else, I have no doubt that product quality would remain the same, because product quality is a HUGE part of Apple's business model. They demand it of their suppliers, no matter where those suppliers are located. I get the sense that the same is true of Technics and Panasonic. If my Malaysian Panasonic microwave is still working after 15 years -- with a lot more moving parts than a manual DD turntable, and a lot more abuse from the people who use it -- I have absolutely no worries about how their Malaysian turntables will hold up.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 11 Jan 2019 23:49

Yeah when it comes to Turntables , especially one that carries the SL-1200 name Technics has a reputation for quality so I think they will ensure that these are also well made . And what other DD Turntable are you going to get at this price point ? Sure all of those Stantons , Audio Technicas and Pioneers etc . are cheaper but they will not be as good as this SL-1200 MK7 . The only one that might be a bit of a competition is that new Denon DJ turntable , that one seems to be of a higher quality than the above mentioned ones .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by chamaruco » 13 Jan 2019 21:46

chiz wrote:
09 Jan 2019 20:03
BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 18:35
I must say I'm very impressed that they were able to get the price of the 1200 Mk7 down to only $1200. For a real Technics, brand new, made in Japan, that is a steal. I'm sure there will be people who complain that it's too expensive and they will cite the fact that they can get a Stanton/Pioneer/Reloop/Vestax for $400-$600, but you get what you pay for. If Pioneer brought production of the PLX-1000 to Japan and made them in-house with higher quality materials and superb quality control, there is no way they'd be able to sell it for $699. It would probably be $1200. So I hope the naysayers will eventually come to appreciate that Technics is trying very hard to offer a turntable that is within reach of working professionals, while at the same time refusing to compromise on what makes a Technics a Technics.
The MK2 was $350 RRP when launched in 1979 which with inflation is close to $1200 today.

The MK7 appears to be made in Malaysia:
mk7_malaysia.jpg
Is there plastic(abs) underneath ? :shock:

Are they rubber free :?

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 14 Jan 2019 00:23

chamaruco wrote:
13 Jan 2019 21:46
chiz wrote:
09 Jan 2019 20:03
BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 18:35
I must say I'm very impressed that they were able to get the price of the 1200 Mk7 down to only $1200. For a real Technics, brand new, made in Japan, that is a steal. I'm sure there will be people who complain that it's too expensive and they will cite the fact that they can get a Stanton/Pioneer/Reloop/Vestax for $400-$600, but you get what you pay for. If Pioneer brought production of the PLX-1000 to Japan and made them in-house with higher quality materials and superb quality control, there is no way they'd be able to sell it for $699. It would probably be $1200. So I hope the naysayers will eventually come to appreciate that Technics is trying very hard to offer a turntable that is within reach of working professionals, while at the same time refusing to compromise on what makes a Technics a Technics.
The MK2 was $350 RRP when launched in 1979 which with inflation is close to $1200 today.

The MK7 appears to be made in Malaysia:
mk7_malaysia.jpg
Is there plastic(abs) underneath ? :shock:

Are they rubber free :?
From what I've gathered so far the Mk7's two piece plinth is SBM top layer and plastic bottom layer. I have not heard any reports about the TT's feet specification.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Japi Roelofs » 14 Jan 2019 00:31

This is from the Technics website:

High Rigidity Cabinet and High Damping Insulator for Thorough Shut-out of All Vibrations

The chassis, an essential part for reducing external vibrations, inherits the audio quality enhancement technology fostered through the development of high-end turntables. The aluminum die-cast chassis is rigidly integrated with a special material consisting of ABS mixed with glass fibre to achieve a two-layer construction. The combination of this special high-rigidity material and a metal chassis raised the rigidity and vibration-damping performance to higher levels, realising a robust cabinet for beautiful sound reproduction.
The insulator is comprised of a spring and rubber to provide optimal frequency characteristics. This not only assures high sound quality and superb howling resistance, but also effectively shuts out external vibrations under high sound level conditions.


I suppose the 'insulator' means the foot.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by VinylDan1 » 14 Jan 2019 03:59

I never said I disagreed with the potential quality, I just would want a table that comes from Japan. I never said it was reasonable, its just my opinion. And as for price, in my opinion the GR is worth the extra $400.