Stanton... who can guess which one?

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Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by hruki » 13 Feb 2020 00:20

Hi,

Can someone help me out with this dilemma: I'm tempted to buy (the price is not fixed) a Stanton cartridge with no model number on it. Erased by time? Never was written on it? The seller proposed only one photo. As far as I can guess from the way it looks (the one on the bottom of the photo), it's old.

Is it possible to tell from the picture which model this cartridge might be? Should I go for it? If I do, what means do I have to find which model is it (to be able to find a stylus for it).

So, Stanton lovers, I'm all ears!
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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by farispaul » 13 Feb 2020 03:03

The lower one looks like a Stanton 500 mk1, the Stanton mk2 is above. Prob off a pair of Technics sl1200s. Very common, cheap and not rare. Ok sounding, but not special. Don’t offer too much, if you want them.

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by hruki » 13 Feb 2020 09:40

Ok, thank you for the reply! I was actually thinking about something more like 68x (or Pickering XV-15), or up if I have the chance. I was trying to read the old threads to educate myself a little. People talking about the old Stanton (NY) vs newer (Miami), New-York being the right thing... I've learned from member emaidel on audiokarma that those brands were getting better with the time. I guess that he was talking about New-York period. I couldn't find the info about when exactly the production moved from NY... Or is there any way to tell apart the old school NY carts from the newer once. There is another add with one XV-15, the "XV-15" being written on the sticker. I dowloaded the manual, which is from NY era, the model number is printed on the cartridge body. Anyhow, I can't say where it comes from, nor if the production of Pickering moved to Miami too? The seller is asking 30€ for the cartridge... Here is the photo, you should look the reflection which has more details...
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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by nat » 13 Feb 2020 22:57

I've never worried too much about the minutia of production of cartridge bodies. The stylus is probably more significant.

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by hruki » 14 Feb 2020 00:49

I see what you mean nat, thank you once again!

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by sberger » 14 Feb 2020 02:00

The Stanton 600/Pickering V15 Micro IV is a cartridge that falls between the cracks a little, and therefore tends to be priced more reasonably in the market. And NOS styli tend to be more available. As a fan of the Stanton 500, the 600 brings everything up a notch, while still retaining the overall musicality that the 500 is prized for. It's really an great cartridge, and I like it better then the 680/681.

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by mamakasou » 14 Feb 2020 11:01

sberger wrote:
14 Feb 2020 02:00
The Stanton 600/Pickering V15 Micro IV is a cartridge that falls between the cracks a little, and therefore tends to be priced more reasonably in the market. And NOS styli tend to be more available. As a fan of the Stanton 500, the 600 brings everything up a notch, while still retaining the overall musicality that the 500 is prized for. It's really an great cartridge, and I like it better then the 680/681.
As you say, the 600 stands somewhere in the middle between Stanton 500 and 680 series.

However, if I were to rank the three body types I'd still place the 500 on top with 680 and 600 being probably equal.
Maybe the 680 having a bit better soundstage, while the 600 greater dynamics.

Regarding the 500 series, when comparing similarly specified original styli for all the three above, it usually has the edge in musicality, as well as dynamics and soundstage.

Of course any of the above three, if mated with the right stylus can be a very nice vintage cartridge.

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by hruki » 14 Feb 2020 12:39

Thank you both for your opinions !

Mamakasou: which stylus/styli do you have in mind when you talk about musicality, dynamics and soundstage of the 500 (or 500MKII, or is it one of the two better choice for some reason)? Can a new production stylus (Jico...) do the "thing" or only old stock hold the magic? What about Pickering V15, is it the same thing?

Thanks!

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by sberger » 14 Feb 2020 16:39

mamakasou wrote:
14 Feb 2020 11:01
sberger wrote:
14 Feb 2020 02:00
The Stanton 600/Pickering V15 Micro IV is a cartridge that falls between the cracks a little, and therefore tends to be priced more reasonably in the market. And NOS styli tend to be more available. As a fan of the Stanton 500, the 600 brings everything up a notch, while still retaining the overall musicality that the 500 is prized for. It's really an great cartridge, and I like it better then the 680/681.
As you say, the 600 stands somewhere in the middle between Stanton 500 and 680 series.

However, if I were to rank the three body types I'd still place the 500 on top with 680 and 600 being probably equal.
Maybe the 680 having a bit better soundstage, while the 600 greater dynamics.

Regarding the 500 series, when comparing similarly specified original styli for all the three above, it usually has the edge in musicality, as well as dynamics and soundstage.

Of course any of the above three, if mated with the right stylus can be a very nice vintage cartridge.
The 500 is an excellent cartridge and very flexible. I don't think it's any more musical then the 600, but to each their own. My experience with finding original styli has been that it's easier and cheaper for the 600/V15 Micro IV then it is for the 500, and when it comes to Pickering/Stanton, original styli are better then any aftermarket. Even better the Jico, IMO.

https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/ is an excellent source for original styli.

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Re: Stanton... who can guess which one?

Post by mamakasou » 14 Feb 2020 18:35

hruki wrote:
14 Feb 2020 12:39
Thank you both for your opinions !

Mamakasou: which stylus/styli do you have in mind when you talk about musicality, dynamics and soundstage of the 500 (or 500MKII, or is it one of the two better choice for some reason)? Can a new production stylus (Jico...) do the "thing" or only old stock hold the magic? What about Pickering V15, is it the same thing?

Thanks!
Never tried the aftermarket ones so i can't comment on them.

Pickering V15 and Stanton 500 are same body.
Don't confuse them with V15 MicroIV or V15 System series. Theses belong to the Stanton 600 series.

Some recommendations:

Stanton 500E mkII
Stanton 500AL mkII
Pickering V15/AM
Pickering NP/AC or anything from the NP series
Pickering V15/AC

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