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Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 24 Nov 2014 00:35

Well thanks to 1&1 hosting, my web site is down... so I thought I would show you my work on upgrading a Sony TTS 3000 turntable. It is a really cool belt drive and I wanted to go back to belt drive after a long run with direct drive. I thought this would be a good place to start.
I got a pretty clean unit from Ebay, it was a little more than I wanted to spend; especally when I found out the motor mounts were gone and in place of them were springs that didn't work! (the spindle sat too low) I use rubber grommets to make a new mount that works just fine.

How it arrived:
Motor TTS-3000.jpg


After the grommets:
Motor after.jpg


The next thing was to plug the hole where the bubble level was (the bubbles never work on these). I used Bondo:
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I sanded that down and sprayed primer, I then wanted to replace the "bumps" to the finish that I had mostly lost with sanding. I used QuietKote sprayed from about 3ft, then sprayed with a dark gray sparkle car paint:
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The platter on this table is VERY light, I used a formula that Atma Sphere used on their Empire tables. To insure none of the goop got where it was not supposed to be I covered the platter where I would introduce the goop to the platter:
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I will add the photo of the goop in the platter on the next post- it added almost a pound to the platter weight.
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 24 Nov 2014 00:38

Here is the platter with the goop added. I took quite a bit of time to level the sawhorse table I set up in the garage to do this. It is the warmest day in a month here in sunny MN so I figured it was now or never:
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby pogo » 24 Nov 2014 02:28

How does a bubble level not work?
"Goin' 90 miles an hour down a dead end street...."
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 24 Nov 2014 02:34

When too much air gets in them they show everything as level up to about 10 degrees on the one I had... but many of these are bone dry so it is useless
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 30 Apr 2015 22:19

I now have three of these tables, I really like them. That first one is still away getting a custom arm built for it- in the mean time I will post some pix from the other ones to keep this thread going!
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby BillWojo » 01 May 2015 00:15

What are the bumpy strips on the underside of the base? Looks like Sony made an attempt at damping the base. The motor looks quite serious also. Keep the pics coming, I enjoy builds like this.

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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 01 May 2015 00:39

Actually Sony had noting but flat aluminum, that is a Dynamat type damping substance. I do have a TTS-6000 where Sony did make some attempts to damp the table and platter.
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 06 May 2015 20:56

Well, I found out that there were at least two versions of this table. The one that was built later did not have holes in the top of the deck, it did not have springs for motor suspension, and it has a little different fit in the plinth. The outer ring on the platter is a little larger too. On the new ones the outer right is not detachable for shorter arms either, it is solid.

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On the new version there are rubber spacers in place of the springs, I cut sorbothane the same size as the originals and used that on the top. I also damped the sides of the motor with sorbothane.

#3 Motor.jpg


On the second and the new ones I poured damping material in the cavities on the underside.

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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 06 May 2015 21:05

I built a plinth for a 12" arm out of alternating MDF and birch plywood. As soon as the depth cleared the obstacles the wood size got larger to add mass.

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I did a sort of cool thing with the armboard on this one- I have a cool router attachment for speaker building that allows you to build a mounting lip- the armboard is solid 1/2" wood that is set down into the plinth- it looks great.

I have used this table with several cartridges and it sounds fantastic compared to the stock plinth. The bass is faster and deeper and everything is more focused.

I will be getting my new tonearm soon and will post photos of that one ASAP.
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 04 Jun 2015 20:45

I wanted you to see what the one that I am currently using looks like assembled and playing Sinatra:

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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 05 Oct 2015 17:48

I finished the plinth for the newer model of 3000. It is one of the best sounding tables I have ever heard.
I put 3/8" mahogany on the outside in place of the usual veneer, I made an armboard out of it too. The armboard is recessed & flush- and part of it is under the deck.

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This one is a keeper!
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 07 Oct 2015 17:23

I was so impressed with the sound of this table- I bought another one!
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 11 Nov 2015 19:26

I wanted to build an affordable version of this table so I made one with a streamline plinth and a less expensive arm. It sounds excellent (like it should) & looks great too.
It has a top layer of Baltic birch plywood, then a layer of MDF, and the bottom is another birch plywood. I cut solid hickory and put it in one inch from the edges to form a recessed look. It has regular veneer over it in place of the solid 3/8 mahogany I used on my own table. The arm is a Rega 250 that has been rewired. (in place of the FR-12 that I use) This is the first 3000 that is in this post (at the top of the page) and I have included a photo of the bottom so you can see the latest mods. The damping on the outside of the bushing well really helped with micro vibration.

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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby unfairlane » 19 Apr 2016 08:39

Wery nice drives these, great work!

Just sold a TTS-3000 drive and bought a near mint PS-1800A "instead". Impressive good sounding player, close to no rumble. Will do something like you have done here to calm down the platter++
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Re: Sony TTS-3000 Upgrade project

Postby Wire Nut » 19 Apr 2016 12:08

I have a 1800, the platter is very light and does need some help. PM me if you want ideas.

The TTS- 3000 is still king in my world. It just beat a Origin Live Aurora, up next is a Lenco L75 that I am working on, then a Garrard 301 will be after that (the 301 is just in the early stages of upgrade, the L75 is almost done)
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