12' LP plays at 45 rpm

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12' LP plays at 45 rpm

Post by irender » 26 Sep 2006 14:00

Hi,

I just purchased an album that is split up between (2) 12' discs,
and is played at 45 rpm. Is this how it's done in the UK, or is this
a cheaper made recording? I have never seen this before.

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Post by Mark E Smith's Dentist » 26 Sep 2006 14:05

It's a really good idea beacause you get better sound quality. I know a couple of albums offhand (Spiritualized's Lazer Guided Melodies and the Tindersticks' fourth - can't remember the title) that are doubles cut at 45 and the sound quality is superb.

Some expensive reissue labels produce 45RPM single sided albums so the blank side makes better contact with the mat and so the playing side stays cleaner. Personally I think that's going a little too far.

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Post by Jagged » 26 Sep 2006 17:25

Quite a few lps are produced this way. Cartridges track much better at 45 rpm and the grooves don't have to be so closely spaced. The net effect is superior sound quality, better dynamics etc.

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Post by stereophile » 26 Sep 2006 23:11

Downside is the the over-all cost and the need to get up sooner to change sides.

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Post by Guest » 26 Sep 2006 23:32

stereophile i will second that, i had the massive attack "100th window" it was on 3 albums at 45, i got sick of getting up six times to listen to it, so sold it and got the CD which to me sounds very nearly as good, :shock:

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Post by irender » 27 Sep 2006 02:16

Yeah I do have to make more trips to the table, but I think it's well worth it. The LP is Oasis "Heathen Chemistry", and the sound difference is
incredible. The CD sound of the same album is 80% midrange, a muffled
mess. The LP on the other hand has a well balanced sound, really no comparison between the two. High hat and cymbals really stand out and an open sounding midrange and nice deep bass. Excellent sound reproduction and exercise in the same package :wink:

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Post by philmch » 09 Nov 2010 15:14

Billy Bragg's first LP; Life's A Riot With Spy Vs Spy plays at 45.

Just wondered whether anyone's encountered the version of Jethro Tull's Aqualung which I believe came out recently on a a series of 7" 45s.

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Post by Jimod99 » 09 Nov 2010 23:41

Public Image Limited's 2nd album Metal Box was famously initially released as 3 12" singles in a metal tin, subsequent pressings were 2LP and the album was retitled Second Edition, it is rumoured that the LP version is a different mix, but there appears to be no difference.

4 Men With Beards, had a limited reissue of the 3x12" version a few years back, but now produce the 2LP version.

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Post by mysticfred » 10 Nov 2010 07:36

I have some Metallica albums on 45rpm, Master of Puppets and i think Ride the Lightning - they sound fantastic, and glad i fitted the Hercules power supply 8)


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Post by Mark E Smith's Dentist » 10 Nov 2010 08:34

I'm really surprised that there's any debate about this - 45RPM (all things being equal) will always sound better. It's analogous to higher tape recording speed, higher digital bitrate, more pixels in a picture, higher refresh rate etc.

Personally I'd be interested to hear a hi-fi stereo recording cut at 78RPM!



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Post by Bebé Tonto » 10 Nov 2010 16:53

jon tiltman wrote:I'm really surprised that there's any debate about this - 45RPM (all things being equal) will always sound better.
So true! (All other things being equal).
jon tiltman wrote:Personally I'd be interested to hear a hi-fi stereo recording cut at 78RPM!
Me too!! My Lenco is ready!!

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Post by philmch » 10 Nov 2010 18:23

jon tiltman wrote:Personally I'd be interested to hear a hi-fi stereo recording cut at 78RPM!
Robbie Williams released one as recently as 2000. I am, it should be said, not terribly keen on the stupid boy.

http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=168979

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Post by Mark E Smith's Dentist » 11 Nov 2010 09:07

Bebé Tonto wrote:
jon tiltman wrote:Personally I'd be interested to hear a hi-fi stereo recording cut at 78RPM!
Me too!! My Lenco is ready!!

How about this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KITTY-DAISY-LEWIS ... 53e48516c3

It's an "album" of five 10" records, one track per side, 100% analogue and cut at 78! I'm seriously tempted, my Garrard is ready!



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Post by goatbreath » 11 Nov 2010 09:15

philmch wrote:Billy Bragg's first LP; Life's A Riot With Spy Vs Spy plays at 45.

Just wondered whether anyone's encountered the version of Jethro Tull's Aqualung which I believe came out recently on a a series of 7" 45s.
Billy Bragg,,Don't try this at home is a Double 12 inch 45 album..

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Post by Jimod99 » 11 Nov 2010 15:30

U2's Artificial Horizon 3LP also plays at 45, although there is no mention of that on the label!

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