Sherwood Receivers- Am I crazy?

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Sherwood Receivers- Am I crazy?

Post by PioneerFan » 05 Nov 2019 14:24

Last night, I started looking at tube phono preamps on YouTube. Then, I made the executive decision that they just are not worth the trouble. So randomly, I came across videos showing Sherwood's early tube and solid state receivers. Absolutely gorgeous. I know the wattage is tiny, and they likely have little quirks. But the tuners are supposed to be awesome. The stuff they made does have a kitschy, retro charm all to their own.

Then, I came across one of their tube amplifiers, with the copper chassis. Oh my gosh!

Aside from the online auction site, where might I pick up one of the tube, or early solid state models? What should I look for, or look out for? If I get one, I'd likely match it up with a small pair of efficient bookshelves, I cannot see them even capable of driving anything floor standing.

So, am I crazy for wanting one of these?

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Post by rewfew » 05 Nov 2019 15:20

You might be. The retro lure could be daunting for a novice, knowing if your getting something worth the time, effort and expense. If you live in a metro area that may have a vintage equipment shop they repair and service and sell, you could get some advice and maybe listen. A small watt tube amp could drive a floor standing speaker, if it is efficient enough and has an impedance load not too wonky and of at least 8 ohm. Of note about that warm tube sound. Mainly derived from the output transformer interaction than the tubes themselves. I understand your bedazzlement.

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Re: Sherwood Receivers- Am I crazy?

Post by PioneerFan » 05 Nov 2019 15:25

rewfew wrote:
05 Nov 2019 15:20
You might be. The retro lure could be daunting for a novice, knowing if your getting something worth the time, effort and expense. If you live in a metro area that may have a vintage equipment shop they repair and service and sell, you could get some advice and maybe listen. A small watt tube amp could drive a floor standing speaker, if it is efficient enough and has an impedance load not too wonky and of at least 8 ohm. Of note about that warm tube sound. Mainly derived from the output transformer interaction than the tubes themselves. I understand your bedazzlement.
I do not consider myself a "novice", as I have a complete silver era Pioneer system. And my 1st job out of college was selling audio gear at a regional big box store.

Back in the day, Sherwood was considered "underpowered junk". But now, when I read about the spectacular FM performance, and the "warm" audio the early receivers produced (tube AND solid state), well, I would love to match one up with some efficient bookshelves, and, tune away.

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Post by rewfew » 05 Nov 2019 21:16

If you feel confident in dealing with any possible servicing issues in buying some older tube gear. Give er a go. I don't know if there's many higher sensitivity bookshelf speakers out there. Maybe klipsch. I use modern tube gear and horn speakers. It's been good for me. Good hunting, good luck.

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Post by Paff » 05 Nov 2019 21:32

PioneerFan wrote:
05 Nov 2019 15:25

Back in the day, Sherwood was considered "underpowered junk". But now, when I read about the spectacular FM performance, and the "warm" audio the early receivers produced (tube AND solid state), well, I would love to match one up with some efficient bookshelves, and, tune away.
Depends on when "back in the day" was.

Sherwood, like a lot of companies, got bought by another manufacturer (it's in Korea, now), and what they make is nothing like what they made in the 60s and 70s. That happens with a lot of companies. When I was shopping for an older receiver, I found that a lot of brand names that I scoff at today actually had serious cache at some point. Heck, just two weeks ago I was driving home and someone had left some old equipment out for the taking, and there was a Sanyo receiver in the stack. I've always associated Sanyo with cheap crapola, so I passed on it. Turns out it was actually a pretty good unit. D'oh!

(oh, and as far as "underpowered" goes, a lot of people get all obsessed with the numbers. My new old HK receiver is a whopping 20W per channel, and if I move the volume past 10 o'clock, everyone on the street would hear my music. Which they should, but that's another topic.

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Post by AsOriginallyRecorded » 05 Nov 2019 23:06

That is an important observation Paff, as many people in the hobby will make sweeping statements about many once great electronics manufacturers based almost entirely on what they saw after the disappearance of these smaller scale manufacturers with the advent of digital and the move to higher volume "disposable" components in the late 80s to the present. Sherwood was one of those smaller volume companies that could not compete in that volume sales market, necessitating it's sale to South Korean Inktel (?) a modern giant of AV manufacturing. Your mention of Sanyo is significant too, as they have made millions of cheap consumer goods level radios, tvs and inexpensive small appliances. They did indeed manufacture some very well regarded components for a short time, but their forte and claim to fame is the enormous amount of Sanyo manufactured and supplied electronic switches, transistors and the like that found their way into virtually every manufacturer's electronic offerings. Oh, to have had cash in pocket when all of these well known companies were at their greatest. Timing is everything some times..... :lol:

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Post by AsOriginallyRecorded » 05 Nov 2019 23:09

Correction...Sherwood now owned by Inkel, not Inktel. ooops! #-o

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Post by Paff » 05 Nov 2019 23:32

Yes, I know of what I speak; I once worked for a digital keyboard company, but we purchased the name of a long dormant piano company solely for the purpose of name recognition. It was funny when we got calls from people with a century-old piano with "lifetime guarantee" on it, and were mad that we couldn't service it or carry parts for it.

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Post by vinyl master » 06 Nov 2019 05:16

Well, all I can say is that I love the ones I bought...The S-7310 Dynaquad model (A "Sally Ann" special!) for my vinyl mentor and the S-7800 model I bought through a Craigslist ad last year...

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Cheap projects, to be sure...$34.99 for the S-7310 and $20.00 for the S-7800...and my local techs did an awesome job on the 7310 when I took it in! By the way, I'm still looking to find or make a cabinet for the 7800 one of these days...Of course, if I ever saw a 7900A or 8900A for the right price, they might be worth considering, as well, but there are many models out there that would be wonderful additions to any collection...Of course, I just like to collect these things and have fun with them! :wink:

By the way...Regarding the 7800, has anyone noticed some of them are going for crazy money nowadays??? :-k :crazy:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RARE-S ... SwB11c5dIl
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1967-S ... Sw9Lxbsutc

In good shape, more than what I paid for my Sansui...What gives??? :?

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Post by Tinkaroo » 06 Nov 2019 09:10

vinyl master wrote:
06 Nov 2019 05:16
Well, all I can say is that I love the ones I bought...The S-7310 Dynaquad model (A "Sally Ann" special!) for my vinyl mentor and the S-7800 model I bought through a Craigslist ad last year...

39557
41410

Cheap projects, to be sure...$34.99 for the S-7310 and $20.00 for the S-7800...and my local techs did an awesome job on the 7310 when I took it in! By the way, I'm still looking to find or make a cabinet for the 7800 one of these days...Of course, if I ever saw a 7900A or 8900A for the right price, they might be worth considering, as well, but there are many models out there that would be wonderful additions to any collection...Of course, I just like to collect these things and have fun with them! :wink:

By the way...Regarding the 7800, has anyone noticed some of them are going for crazy money nowadays??? :-k :crazy:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RARE-S ... SwB11c5dIl
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1967-S ... Sw9Lxbsutc

In good shape, more than what I paid for my Sansui...What gives??? :?
There are a lot of gold diggers on some of these auction sites that try to make big bucks off vintage equipment, but no nothing about electronics. They see others asking crazy prices and want to be part of the feeding frenzy.

Unfortunately both of the overpriced receivers you showed are unserviced and over 50 years old now so will most likely need service which could prove costly. So if someone bought that $500 S-7800 and had to spend another $200 for service, chances of them ever getting their money back in a resale are slim to none even on the original price.

On the other hand VMs serviced example he bought cheap and had serviced is a much better deal.

It's a good idea to shop around and do a lot of research before buying anything vintage. Vintage tube equipment is more likely to need some service due to it's age and all the heat produced.Vintage tube receivers such as those from Fisher or Harman Kardon that have been serviced can be very pricey these days (Think about twice what those two examples were asking).

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Post by PioneerFan » 06 Nov 2019 13:21

I have a couple of good leads on some, through Facebook. Was hoping to uncover more leads on here, that aren't eBay related.

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Post by vinyl master » 06 Nov 2019 15:45

Where are you located, PioneerFan? There might be one near you and you don't know it! :-k

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Post by PioneerFan » 06 Nov 2019 17:00

vinyl master wrote:
06 Nov 2019 15:45
Where are you located, PioneerFan? There might be one near you and you don't know it! :-k
Central Massachusetts

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Post by cafe_liegeois » 06 Nov 2019 23:42

I own this Sherwood S-8800a, one of their early semiconductor receivers, from the late 60s/early 70s:

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It is built like the proverbial battleship and still works perfectly well at the tender age of 50 years. Everything operates smoothly and there are no scratching pots or erratic switches.

No, it hasn't needed any service to be in this state. It just plays on and on. And it's well capable of driving my big Castle Howard S2 floor-standing speakers to volumes that would have the neighbours banging at my door.

Further photos and a more detailed description can be found -> here.

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Post by vinyl master » 07 Nov 2019 05:59

PioneerFan wrote:
06 Nov 2019 17:00
vinyl master wrote:
06 Nov 2019 15:45
Where are you located, PioneerFan? There might be one near you and you don't know it! :-k
Central Massachusetts
This guy may have some stuff...

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/ele/d ... 79635.html

If you were interested, there is a beautiful S-7110 here, just to the north of you, for $30 (slightly cheaper than mine!)...Could be JUST the project for you! :D

https://nh.craigslist.org/ele/d/hollis- ... 79549.html

Saw this serviced guy here, too, with new LED's at a nice price...

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/ele/ ... 28445.html

Same one for HALF the price, but no LED's...

https://cnj.craigslist.org/ele/d/old-br ... 90962.html

There is a lot here and he won't break them up, but there is a beautiful 8600 listed...

https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 86268.html

On EBay, there is this beautiful S-8900 near Quincy, Mass.! =D>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-890 ... SwTvNdwI~b

Another one in Rensselaer, NY...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sherwo ... SwpbhduFbY

If you like the newer look, there was this one in Connecticut...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sherwo ... 1601!US!-1

Or another S-8900 in New York for more $$$...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-890 ... SwXDVcpiPi

Again, this one's also in New York, but they're asking CRAZY money! :(

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1967-S ... Sw9Lxbsutc

I love the look of those old Sherwoods, though... :)

Of course, here's a tempting proposition for UNDER $100... :-k

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-250 ... SwwRRduISb

Very unique, too and also from New York! :D

You want a project for cheaper? Consider this one!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SHERWO ... Swc6paAciq

and then...BOOM!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SET-of-5-SHERW ... Sw9DZdipQn

BOOM!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-710 ... Sw8uFcXGBT

BOOM!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-710 ... SwQ45cXGDF

Or for less...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SHERWO ... SwgV1dt39D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SHERWO ... Sw2WJdt4A0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-710 ... SwDkVaAcW2

Funny, but those knobs from that last link come from New Windsor, New York, same place as that knobless 7100...Coincidence??? :-k

And whaddya know???? ANOTHER cheap, knobless Sherwood from the SAME place!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sherwo ... SwMTRa15qW

There's a Jersey City special here, too...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-vint ... SwUSRdj-hm

They're also parting out this one...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S7110 ... XQUmFSiBC6

And then, another cheap deal out of Minnesota...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-S-712 ... Swj39drQbq

Hopefully, something might be of help to you there...All I know is I love mine (I dig the older ones!) and I think they're worth bringing back to life! =D>

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