Yamaha NS1000M fronts

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wzevon1951
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Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by wzevon1951 » 11 Jan 2019 19:06

The 1000M's fronts never seem to be referred to or photographed. I suppose I'm not surprised, one imagines the culture shock in the seventies of the look of the black glossy baffles, the Yamaha logos, and the drivers' grilles. Head turning.
But the fronts for the 1000M's are barely noticed. The layout of the brown wood 1000's is more conventional, and in my opinion not nearly as iconic. Were they a standard part of the original asking price of the 1000M's? I guess so, but most of them seem to be in a cupboard somewhere else!
I have finally bought a pair of 1000M's, after lusting after them for approaching 50 years, and am wondering about creating new fronts. The lug holes are there, but that is all I know. I think the construction of them starts with four small diagonal corner pieces, with the male fixing lugs on them.
Does anyone possess the fronts? Photos would be wonderful, but a few words of description would help no end.

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by jcidave1 » 15 Jan 2019 02:56

There is a seller on US Ebay right now selling a pair of these grills. His sale is pretty pricy. Maybe if you write to him, he'll post more pics. The audio dealer I worked for in the 70's was a Yamaha dealer and we had the 1000m out on demo. Of the speakers we had out on display for the time I was there, I thought these were possibly the best in the store. Enjoy.

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by twaino » 16 Jan 2019 00:42

I saw a pair for sale, here in Australia, he wanted $200 (about 120 quid)..... So with shipping, unless you were really desperate, I'd say it would be cost prohibitive. Amber Valley, lovely area... I'm from Staffordshire.

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by wzevon1951 » 16 Jan 2019 15:06

Thanks for those responses. 320 dollars seems a bit expensive! But the pictures are useful. It looks like there is a corner piece of wood that connects with the lug orifice on the speaker, and then there is a metal frame by the look of it, running around the speaker perimeter. I had the feeling that there was a gap on the side between the front of the speaker and the speaker front. I wonder if the whole thing might be not worth the bother. Were they standard issue with the speakers?

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by jcidave1 » 17 Jan 2019 03:02

Yes. the grills came with the black version of the speaker. Not sure about the ebony version. We didn't stock those. And yes, there is a space or gap as you might call it between the grill frame and the speaker face. I suspect to allow space for the wire mesh screen over the drivers. Don't remember if the grill frame was metal or plastic. You can do this very simply with 8 pieces of wood, carpenters glue, black paint and the the acoustic grill cloth. I did this for a pair of Dynaco A-250 speakers. I just laid the wood pieces on a flat floor in a rectangle and glued them as they laid. You can use wood dowels for the post plugs for the holes in the speaker front. Over here, Parts Express sells grill cloth.
This is the homemade cheap and dirty version to use until you finally get the real thing. I assure you, if you stand 10 feet away and look at it at 100 miles an hour, it'll look fine. And oh yeah, make a color copy of a Yamaha speaker logo badge, mount it on cardboard and put velcro on the back. I've done this too.

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by wzevon1951 » 17 Jan 2019 17:12

Yes that reminds me of some stunning Audiomaster badges made with a cunningly sized glossy print and some double sided tape. Looked great. Probably have faded a bit over the years. I was thinking some dowel for plugs too. I have some male speaker grille fitting lugs....from a pair of Snell fronts I made I think...and they didn't fit the Yamaha holes.
I don't know if anyone else gets this impulse, but I really wanted to make some authentic looking fronts. But at the same time, I am loathe to pay serious money for the grilles. Don't mind lashing out on the speakers, but the fronts? I think I may have talked myself out of the project!
Personally, I find the domestic version of the NS1000 ugly in comparison. Ok the 1000M is iconic, but I don't like the brown finish on the 1000. Reminds me of old fashioned Formica! It is 8 kgs heavier too, which is amazing!
The dimensions are all expanded for the domestic version.... 710x395x369, whereas the black studio version, the 1000M, is 675x375x326. The weights are, for completeness, 39kgs and 31kgs. The 43 mms (!) difference in depth must be to do with the grilles on the domestic I think.
I have just measured the bodywork depth on the 1000M, ignoring the speaker units being proud, and the bodywork, without any grilles is 295 mms! Which is a colossal difference from the 369 mms on the domestic. That's nearly 3 inches isn't it? 8 Kgs is 17.6 pounds!
Has the domestic version got its own fans? Does all the extra weight make any odds to the sound? I think I have read that it doesn't? Is it just shrouded in more wood?

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by wzevon1951 » 18 Jan 2019 15:13

For completeness the important statistic that I neglected to mention....the Hifi Year book 1977 lists the prices as £532 for the 1000, and £444 for the 1000M.

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by hobie1dog » 18 Jan 2019 16:04

I listened to the 1000's but they didn't have much on the bottom end, are there others who feel the same about them?

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Re: Yamaha NS1000M fronts

Post by wzevon1951 » 20 Jan 2019 00:33

The usual response over the years is that that is not totally unfair. There are lots of accounts of enhancing the bass: myself I am too captivated by the transcendent and captivating mid range to worry too much about bass thump.

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