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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by audiopile » 30 May 2015 03:24

Please -don't mess with arm bearings -it's extremely unlikely you'll get it right.

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by Mctwins » 30 May 2015 17:47

Hallo!

I am giving up about pioneer PLX-1000 turntable and will not buy this unit. Don't like when a company does not respond to technical question. To see some one else that allready have problems with a unit and does not get any info or respond from the company is very bad.

I manage to buy Technics SL-1210 Mk5, accually two of them, my brother Bobecca took the other one. In very prestine condition. Very satisfied with both of them. Sounds great with both Ortofon Concorde DJ/E and Nightclub MkII.

Here is a link to see some pictures :D

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showth ... p?t=654201

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by audiopile » 30 May 2015 17:57

If you can find the increasingly rare un-molested SL-1200/10 - you've got a winner. I remain interested in the Pioneer unit only because prices worldwide of the 1200 series tables are beginning to get crazy - hard to believe for something that was made in the millions of units ? But -really -you look around and realize that the used technics units are still worthwhile since nothing really has replaced them ?

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by Mctwins » 30 May 2015 18:00

Didn't cost much for me here in Sweden. PLX-1000 cost 6500SEK and I gave 8000SEK for one Technics.

Nothing to cry over :mrgreen:

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by Bobecca » 30 May 2015 19:19

Hi

I manage to adjust my bearings on my AT1240. The tonearm grooves the track better on higher SPL and is more stable. It needed just small changes ro get it right and I didnt need to fiddle with the outer ring at all.

A easy fix with an total overall inprovement. The Technics tonearm hasent have a loose bearings at all.

The response from AT was able to answer all of my questions compare to pioneer. I was into the pioneer but decided to go for the AT. Somehing for the pioneer to learn from.

BTW whats the fuzz regarding the antiskate on the Hanpins ??????
Mine is working like a charm :)

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by DK1 » 30 May 2015 21:15

Yes, I have had some problems with my PLX1000 but please don't write this turntable off as I haven't yet. Even with the faults it still plays beautifully and still sounds better than the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon it replaced. I am definitely a convert to direct drive tt's. If I could find a decent Technics in the same colour scheme (black) I would be all over it like a rash...

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by bigus3333 » 18 Jul 2015 02:42

I've had my PLX-1000 for close to a year now.

I admit I was afraid to fork out money for a table most people were slamming. Some features of the table kept me interested in purchasing. The ability to use your own power and interconnect cables being the most important and being able to adjust the table.
All I can say is this. The fanboys who slam this table are just that. Fanboys.
If you get a bad table then return it. It's that simple. You should know before the warranty runs out if it's bad or not.

I've had no issues with mine. I've had a lot of turntables over the years and this one has been in my system longer than all of them. It's a great turntable.
I've had the following in my system since I got back into vinyl and none have lasted longer than six months.
Music Hall MMF 2.2
Pro-Ject RPM 1.3 Genie
Pro-Ject 2Xperience Acryl
Technics SL-Q3 (lasted 1 week)
Audio-Technica AT-LP1240-USB (still have it)

The PLX-1000 is a good turntable for the money. I'm not saying it's the best out there but you can't go wrong if your looking for a good value with the ability to tweak.
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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by philmch » 21 Jul 2015 17:48

As a matter of interest, is it possible to change the arm ? I've seen a few Technics over the years with Rega arms and this is what I'd like to do. I have a good RB250 (pillar mount) and was wondering whether arm boards are available for it. Thanks.

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by bigus3333 » 25 Jul 2015 03:42

Lymbo90 wrote:Folks, Pioneer has a winner here. This is a very nice Turntable. It's a keeper for me without a doubt! By the way, it shipped with a nice thick rubber mat, not just the felt slip mat.

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Quintet Black?
How do you like it?
I like the fact you can have a heavy cartridge like this as well.
I have the red but I still prefer the Denon 103 which I could not play on other tables....

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Re: Pioneer PLX-10000

Post by trowster » 02 Sep 2015 14:56

Hey everyone! My first post so please go easy....

I've had a PLX-1000 since March 2015; I also own a Technics 1210Mk5. Overall I have been very impressed with the PLX-1000. The build quality (in my opinion) is good and it is a solid bit of kit. I have Shure M97XE cartridges fitted to both and there isn't too much discernible difference. The starting torque I would say IS better on the PLX. I would agree with the Italian earlier that the indicated anti-skate seems to under-read what's required by almost a factor of 2.

If you have the time and money to chase down some 1210s in good condition then that's a great option. If, however, you'd like to buy something new with a warranty then give the PLX an audition; I haven't been disappointed!!

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Re: Pioneer PLX-1000

Post by Garven » 14 Sep 2015 01:54

Has anyone asked the moderators to correct the thread title?

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Re: Pioneer PLX-1000

Post by Van_Isle » 15 Sep 2015 09:57

Just wanted to point out to you guys that have the Pioneer that there have been a number of requests for assistance in this thread that have gone unanswered. I've just read through this thread and it seems that members have asked for info or help on:

1) effective mass of tonearm
2) a loose tonearm stub
3) overhang
4) use of the auxiliary weight
5) cartridge heights and VTA settings
6) tonearm replacements.

Just saying ... you know ... to try to put the thread back on track. Unless you want it to mainly be a Technics vs. Hanpin slugfest.

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Re: Pioneer PLX-1000

Post by bigus3333 » 03 Oct 2015 01:55

Van_Isle wrote:Just wanted to point out to you guys that have the Pioneer that there have been a number of requests for assistance in this thread that have gone unanswered. I've just read through this thread and it seems that members have asked for info or help on:

1) effective mass of tonearm
2) a loose tonearm stub
3) overhang
4) use of the auxiliary weight
5) cartridge heights and VTA settings
6) tonearm replacements.

Just saying ... you know ... to try to put the thread back on track. Unless you want it to mainly be a Technics vs. Hanpin slugfest.
I'll try to answer a few.
Effect mass is 12g. This is from Pioneer. I don't think the guy I talked to was to knowledgeable though. I think 10-12 grams is a good number.
I use 12 for the resonance frequency calculations. Denon 103 is border line but is still o.k with Hi Fi News test disk.

Overhang is 15mm. Taking a rough measurement from spindle to tip 15mm is O.K but from end of cartridge to tip set up, 52mm is the number not 54mm! This is from my setup. It might be different for others.

The weights are:
No weight: 6-10 grams
Top weight or head shell weight: 3.5-6.5 grams
Back weight 9.5-13 g


Cartridge height depends on cartridge. the cartridge should come with documentation.
If not then eyeball it. The arm should be parallel to the platter.

Azimuth is a little tougher but the benefits are rewarding. Don't f**k with it until you know what your doing.....
Twist the headshell a bit first before adjusting any screws.

Hope this is a good start.
My opinion is the turntable is good. The number one rule for me is being able to adjust almost every setting. The Pioneer has not disappointed....

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Re: Pioneer PLX-1000

Post by Steve64 » 17 Nov 2015 06:19

I have a quintet black on my plx 1000 and am completely satisfied. I use a Ortofon MC3 turbo on my KAB sl-1200 M3D and am very happy with it. I just like the Pio better. As far as I am concerned, the Technics vs Pioneer debate is over. They are both good. It's all subjective now. I absolutely hate thinking about how much of a subjective upgrade will cost me.

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Re: Pioneer PLX-1000

Post by bigus3333 » 21 Nov 2015 01:35

I don't want to redirect this thread into a cable or pre-amp debate but.....
How many people are using after market power cables, interconnects with the Pioneer PLX-1000?
What pre-amp are you using with the Pioneer?

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