Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

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Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by slobrain » 12 Jul 2019 19:00

I wanted to check with folks out there on VE to see if you have issues on the rubber boots rotting and falling apart that covers the suspension springs mounted on the feet of the PL200 thru 400 series turntables? Seems Pioneer picked a rubber that rots after 30+ years. When these rubber boots rot the alignment of the upper chassis goes misaligned from the lower chassis as the springs do not have a way to hold the alignment after the rubber boot falls apart.
I do repair and refurbish on some old tables and have a system that replaces the rubber rotted boots.
I was considering selling a cheap kit on eBay to replace the rotted rubber boots but wanted to ask first if any of you have encountered this issue and if so do you want to have a fix available?
The method I use works and gets the alignment back in place. I'll add pictures of my method. 2 pictures are the original boot and 2 pictures are my fix for the alignment and suspension problem.

Let me know your thoughts as I'm always looking to build replacement parts to keep these old but well built turntables working.

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by KentT » 12 Jul 2019 22:47

This is a welcome idea, because Pioneer rubber feet of that era are all rotted out. And having replacements available will bring new life to these old classics.

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by Munchie » 03 Aug 2019 16:12

Excellent idea. My rubbers were gone on my pl 200. I just removed all the rubber to keep the 4 corners even. I used some grommets for the top of the springs as well for some isolation. How much extra help are the sleeves over the springs? I only question this as the plinth is plastic and seems to be the weak point on this table and spring isolation would have little to no effect overall. Or is there something I’m overlooking here. Thank you

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by as7122487 » 11 Aug 2019 14:47

I slobrain.
I live in Portugal and I've searched everywhere and I can't find this article anywhere. I have a Pioneer PL 400 missing 4 feet (damaged rubbers). There is no way we can try to do business, i would like to put the PL 400 working again.

Best regards,

Miguel

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by Kevin Gallagher » 15 Sep 2019 23:30

I'm interested in the replacement feet kit you came up with for my Pioneer PL 200 turntable. How can I but a set?

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by BMRR » 16 Sep 2019 16:39

As luck would have it, I just acquired a PL-200. I'm interested in your kit. :)

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by memoryswap » 21 Sep 2019 15:41

Also interested in this. If I can just have a link, I would buy 👍 (I have a pl-200)

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by Van_Isle » 30 Sep 2019 01:04

Have you investigated the kit for use with the PL-500, PL-600, PL-L1000 (? - maybe more - ?)

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by patapouf89 » 03 Oct 2019 00:52

Interested for my pl400x too

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by slobrain » 11 Oct 2019 17:47

OMG, I never received any notifications that anyone was interested. I do have the kit now on ebay. I only have a few but next week I should have more. It was a slow start getting this out there due to other stuff going on...
The picture that shows the grommet on the top of the spring, it actually goes into the small ring of the spring for better stabilization. Its a simple process to replace these. This kit fixes 3 problems, alignment of the suspension springs to the bottom chassis, sag of platter and tonearm assembly and dampening of the suspension springs to remove bounce. Here is the link below.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274034647812?s ... 1555.l2649

next week I should have maybe four more kits available to sell. I'll keep adding them as folks need them.

Thanks

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by Van_Isle » 11 Oct 2019 20:07

Does not ship to Canada ... sigh!

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by slobrain » 12 Oct 2019 03:19

Munchie wrote:
03 Aug 2019 16:12
Excellent idea. My rubbers were gone on my pl 200. I just removed all the rubber to keep the 4 corners even. I used some grommets for the top of the springs as well for some isolation. How much extra help are the sleeves over the springs? I only question this as the plinth is plastic and seems to be the weak point on this table and spring isolation would have little to no effect overall. Or is there something I’m overlooking here. Thank you
The rubber sleeve has a lip around the bottom of the spring that holds the spring in place in the hole of the bottom of the metal chassis. The original rubber boot did the same. The boot also acts as a dampener to the spring to keep spring ringing from happening from resonant notes. BTW, the top plinth is plastic but the bottom half is metal so spring contact to the metal can cause issues of a different sort. The original boot isolates the spring from both the top and bottom plinth.
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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by slobrain » 12 Oct 2019 03:29

Van_Isle wrote:
30 Sep 2019 01:04
Have you investigated the kit for use with the PL-500, PL-600, PL-L1000 (? - maybe more - ?)
No, I haven't had any of those tables on my work bench. I'm sure something could be done to make them. Having a turntable on the bench makes it easier to come up with a fix. The kit I'm selling came from having to repair that exact problem for the 200 thru 400 tables.
Can you post pictures here that show the feet and the rotted rubber?

Thanks

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by JDlp » 29 Oct 2019 22:16

This exactly I need! Could you advise me when more sets are available. Have the PL-200 table

Thanks!

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Re: Pioneer PL-200-250-300-400 turntable Feet suspension problem and fix

Post by JDlp » 31 Oct 2019 21:28

Re: pioneer feet
Do you need the money up front? No problem, let me know

Thanks Jeff

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