Cartridge for PL-41

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Cartridge for PL-41

Post by evildingo » 08 Mar 2019 19:43

Was hoping people might be able to let me know if I am heading in the correct direction.

I currently run a AT-11 on my PL-41 through my SX-980 into a pair of Pioneer FS51's

It sounds great, but the cartridge is the one that came with it 7 years ago, and I have no history on its care.

I want to try to improve the sound without to great an investment. Looking at the Ortofon OM Pro S which comes pre-mounted in a black head-shell.

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by Alec124c41 » 08 Mar 2019 23:25

The Pro-S is a DJ cartridge, with a spherical stylus. It's built to take punishment, not to produce the highest quality of sound.
This might be a better bet: https://www.lpgear.com/product/THEVESSELA3SE.html

Cheers,
Alec

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by evildingo » 09 Mar 2019 01:06

Alec, will that fit my stock pl 41 headshell? I would prefer to maintain the vintage look but am open to a new headshell.

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by Alec124c41 » 11 Mar 2019 02:17

Yes, it will fit your headshell. The 1/2 inch screw spacing is standard.

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by evildingo » 11 Mar 2019 02:33

Thanks Alec! I am going to give that one a shot. Looks great per the reviews!!

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by katana1100 » 13 Mar 2019 14:01

I run the cart that it shopped with- pioneer plc9. It is made by AT, I think same as AT 4 or something like that .
They pop up on the auction site and replacenent style are cheap ( under $20) and some are darn identical to oem stylus ( which I have around ten).
I was so smitten by it that I bought two more of those carts.
Specs are great - stereo seperation might be the highest for any conical mm cart ( I think around 28db). Also has solid bass, it’s one of my preferred carts for jazz and plus hey, perfect match for that giant but beautiful tone arm.
When people check out my system, yes, the biotracer and the Sanyo with the carbon arm get comments. But it’s that 50 year old pioneer with the plc9 cart playing Chicago that gets comments like “ I can’t believe something so old can sound better than a CD!”.

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by evildingo » 18 Mar 2019 13:05

Thanks Katana. I ended up doing research on the cartridge that is in there now. It is a AT11 which from all I read is a great cart. I found a replacement stylus ATS11E which is a step up from the worn out ATS 11 I currently have on there. This place http://www.stereoneedles.com/audio-technica.html appearently sells original AT needles. So I'll see how it turns out. From what I've read, the old 60's and 70's carts from AT are better than alot of the new denon and ortfon carts. I dont know, Ill give it a try. And see what happens. Thanks for the input!

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by 4clicks » 23 Apr 2019 17:15

Alec124c41 wrote:
08 Mar 2019 23:25
The Pro-S is a DJ cartridge, with a spherical stylus. It's built to take punishment, not to produce the highest quality of sound.
This might be a better bet: https://www.lpgear.com/product/THEVESSELA3SE.html

Cheers,
Alec
I am a vinyl neophyte and recently acquired a pioneer PL12 I think the early edition. Looking at the images of PL 41, both models share similar looking arms. Same goes with PL15, 25 and 35. While I do not know the actual arm mass of these models, most enthusiasts consider the arm relatively heavy.
If the recommended VTF of the Vessel is 2 gm, will it match the tone arm of PL12 or PL41.
Hope someone in the forum using or who has used these tables share their experience if these pioneer models can optimally track at this VTF. Conversely would the Vessel's compliance match the PL12 or PL41's tone arm.
I also read some recommending Denon DL 110 for Pioneer PL41. Is it right to presume that the same recommendation is applicable to other Pioneer models having similar arms

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by katana1100 » 26 Apr 2019 15:21

While I have a pl41 and a couple of Denon 110 carts, I never got around to trying a 110 on it. I did try the 110 on the pl50 which has a similar mass tone arm( but also antiskate) and I preferred the stock pc35 cart to it.
I also like the stock plc9 cart on the pl41.
One thing to consider is that the pl41 tone arm lacks anti skate. For that reason, I think you might be better off with a conical cart. If you read all the many threads on web about this table, the one cart that comes up more than any other are the Denon mc conical carts.
If I ever got one, it’d go on the pl41.
If you want something cheap, the Shure sc35 should be a good match. I have one in a box somewhere but I never got around to trying it out.

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Re: Cartridge for PL-41

Post by rash » 02 Aug 2019 23:23

evildingo wrote:
08 Mar 2019 19:43
Was hoping people might be able to let me know if I am heading in the correct direction.

I currently run a AT-11 on my PL-41 through my SX-980 into a pair of Pioneer FS51's

It sounds great, but the cartridge is the one that came with it 7 years ago, and I have no history on its care.

I want to try to improve the sound without to great an investment. Looking at the Ortofon OM Pro S which comes pre-mounted in a black head-shell.

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks
Cartridge Pioneer PC-9,PC-10,PC-11

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