New in box PL-12D?

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 23 Jan 2018 14:47

Thanks all. Just fitted and aligned an AT120eb and it's breaking in now :)

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Chiltern » 23 Jan 2018 15:14

This thread reminds me of standing in a queue in Comet at the Swan in Birmingham to buy a PL12D. It did not come with a cartridge, and all the Hi Fi press of the time recommended the Shure M75ED with, if you were really keen, an SME headshell.

I used it until I bought a Technics direct drive around '79, the Pioneer then went back in it's box, much like the one shown here. Rare to see the 60c/s pulley still in place in the packing. A very nice deck, brings back fond memories. Still have the SME headshell!

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 23 Jan 2018 15:16

Bet the cartridge and that headshell added a few £. The lubricator is still there too and still flexible too!

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Chiltern » 23 Jan 2018 16:03

Angelsguardian wrote:Bet the cartridge and that headshell added a few £. The lubricator is still there too and still flexible too!
I see from the '74 Hi Fi yearbook that a M75ED had a list price of £17.49 and the SME headshell £2.52 plus tax. Comet would have discounted these prices. For example I have a Comet price list from 1970 where an SME 3009 with Headshell was approx £31 list price and the Comet price £25, this coming after a time of 'retail price maintenance' in the UK where prices were fixed.

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 23 Jan 2018 16:09

So Comet did selling good stuff at one point. By the time I was buying in the late 80s they were amongst the worst of the box shifters!

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by JDJX » 08 Feb 2018 19:58

I has most like been used at one point bur evidently was very well taken care of.

For one thing this is the head shell that would have originally come with it.
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BTW, I also have a 112D (in addition to my Thorens) that was also in its original packaging.
It was just about all pristine (except for a minor issue with the dust cover) but, it was evidently used but, also wall taken care of.

Anyway, nice find. :)

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 08 Feb 2018 20:01

That’s interesting not seen that headshell. All the ones I’ve seen are like mine.

Anyway with an AT120EB and a Project Phono Box S it’s fabulously musical.

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by JDJX » 08 Feb 2018 20:12

Angelsguardian wrote:That’s interesting not seen that headshell. All the ones I’ve seen are like mine.

Anyway with an AT120EB and a Project Phono Box S it’s fabulously musical.
Yes, many people replace it, not that there is anything wrong with it.
They just want something that looks a but more high tech I guess. :)
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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 08 Feb 2018 20:25

My home made isolation tables helped a bit as did using some memory foam to damp inside the case.
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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by JDJX » 08 Feb 2018 23:02

You may be correct about that head shell.

I did some searches and it seems that both were used.
Perhaps it depends on the manufacture date, etc?

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 08 Feb 2018 23:05

I’ve found press adverts with silver model in black but not yours or the black vented shell in real life. Maybe it depended on market.

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by DubbaDubbaDubbaCha » 11 Feb 2018 05:03

Angelsguardian wrote:memory foam to damp inside the case.
May I ask how you did this?

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 11 Feb 2018 09:30

Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures but I cut long two long triangles of memory foam from a pillow. I then used duct tape over them so once stuck down they were under a small amount of pressure. Then I stuck about 6” to the inside of the base clear of the motor and about 3” on the underside of the top steel chassis below the platter. If I could stand the look I’d put a small piece on the tone arm.
I felt it reduced the subsonic wobble I was getting bit didn’t eliminate it. I think it also gave the bass more definition but not as much as the isolation table in both cases. One effect I can visually measure, the other could be wishful thinking.

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by DubbaDubbaDubbaCha » 11 Feb 2018 17:14

Angelsguardian wrote:Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures but I cut long two long triangles of memory foam from a pillow. I then used duct tape over them so once stuck down they were under a small amount of pressure. Then I stuck about 6” to the inside of the base clear of the motor and about 3” on the underside of the top steel chassis below the platter. If I could stand the look I’d put a small piece on the tone arm.
I felt it reduced the subsonic wobble I was getting bit didn’t eliminate it. I think it also gave the bass more definition but not as much as the isolation table in both cases. One effect I can visually measure, the other could be wishful thinking.
Cool, thanks for that. :D
Congrats on your find. I'm the proud owner of a near mint one myself with a p-mount equivalent of your cartridge. Still blown away how good it sounds. I'll try out your suggestion.

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Re: New in box PL-12D?

Post by Angelsguardian » 11 Feb 2018 17:18

Excellent. The bamboo chopping board with correct size for the weight sorbothane feet was an excellent £15 upgrade.