billshurv wrote:In this case you have a format that was obsolete in 1983. It is laughably flawed, but can be huge fun and gives you something to fill your spare time with.
My opinion now is this hobby feels more like a passing fad in my life, hence my ever waning patience with it; the noise, the inner-groove distortion, the space needed, the time and effort for maintenance, the lot of it.
vinyl master wrote:Everyone wants that instant gratification, rather than work for a solution...
Ah, that brings me to my current compromise: 24 bit vinyl rips to play on my High Resolution DAP. I work very hard to master them, get them to sound how I want, not how some engineer (with obligations to placate the record label and with vastly different ears) wants. And I am starting to think many of my vinyl rips (played on this device that fits in my pocket) sound better than playing them on my meager turntable setup. Not all though.
vinyl master wrote:If I want GREAT SOUND (which is the goal), I have to accept a few compromises and some trial-and-error to get to that point...
...all the pain is worth the effort in the end when you find the "sweet spot" and everything is in alignment!
And I would argue that by doing so, you risk letting confirmation bias creep in to validate your efforts as being worthwhile. I certainly don't want to get into an A versus D debate yet again, but more to the point, anywhere you look in the forums when people have problems with vinyl playback, you are guaranteed to see copious amounts of speculation and misinformation. This tends to exacerbate the issue. I am getting rather tired of it. It's either that or throw more money at the problem, which I have never been in any financial position to do, nor do I predict I will ever be fortunate enough to indulge in.
I went back yesterday and played every LP I had cleaned once again to see if the noise had been reduced and it had, although is far from being gone. Based on what I have gathered from forums, I really also need to spend $200 or more on a vacuum machine to get that last 30-40%. Or perhaps I could continue to use the wood glue method where I was already more satisfied with the results, albeit with the extra amount of time and care needed to do it correctly, and knowing it only seems to work about 60% of the time anyway. I am hoping maybe I can combine the two solutions for a greater chance of getting good results. I don't intend to invest in a vacuum solution at this point.
I dunno. Mostly I'm perturbed the Spin Clean is not a complete solution, but is priced like it should be one. I paid twice as much for this product than I did on my current turntable, the latter of which has been very reliable. It bothers me that yet another aspect of this hobby has become far too unnecessarily expensive these days and I will probably be giving it up soon. At this point the LP's will likely go back into storage eventually and I will listen to my rips and high resolution digital streams. Perhaps then I can decide if something is missing from my musical listening experiences and only then return to the more cumbersome and pricey method, knowing it truly is worth the extra effort, and come back more prepared and hopefully more financially able to support the endeavor.
Spin Clean appears to be a decent product. Just not as good as I had hoped, or indeed as good as others singing its praises have made it out to be.