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How do I rip?

Postby Jdog1958 » 07 Jul 2018 23:37

I wouldn't mind being able to rip some of my vinyl just for the fact that it would be nice to have Mp3's for on-the-go. My turntable has no USB outputs as those things weren't even a dream back in the late 70's. I had an old HP PC that was marketed as a "media center" and I could run a cable across the house, plug it into the sound card (yes, it had one of those) and record with included software. It has long since passed on, replaced by a gaming rig/desk top I built. My current receiver is connected to my network, I can see it it in the device manager, but I don't really know what to do with that.

Is my only choice to invest in another turntable that includes USB outlets?

My other thought is that I have another PC I built myself last year that I have never used. I was thinking that if I could Incorporate it into my media area, there has to be software that would allow my to do this. I believe the PC has more that enough processing power to do this.
What are your thoughts?
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Re: How do I rip?

Postby jiiteepee » 08 Jul 2018 07:40

It would be good to describe better the hardware (and software) you have there.

- make & model of your receiver?
- can you connect your turntable directly to your receiver (is there a phono input with RIAA stage present) or do you use external phono pre-amp?
- etc.

If your receiver has phono input, I/O for a recorder (cassette deck etc.) and options for to record the phono input with it then, you could just connect your PC audio interface as like it was a cassette deck... .

Regarding that network option ... you could check out if it's possible to stream data out through it from receiver and do you see it as an input on your system audio playback/recording options and recording software.
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Re: How do I rip?

Postby lini » 09 Jul 2018 23:05

jd: There are several alternative approaches. Personally, while I've got quite a few soundcards as well as external sound-interfaces for FireWire and USB, I nowadays prefer to record with a little digital field recorder (Sony PCM-M10 in my case...) onto flash memory card (in my case microSD(HC)).

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Re: How do I rip?

Postby docdan » 11 Jul 2018 23:23

don't need to buy a new turntable. there are multiple ways of digitizing vinyl. for less than $20 you can pick up a USB digitizing interface.

I recently bought an ART USB Phono Plus since I needed a good phono preamp and the USB function came for $10 more.
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Re: How do I rip?

Postby Yak_Forger » 16 Aug 2018 16:16

I have a PCM-M10 that I use a lot, although for music-unrelated reasons (mostly for my job, and for hobby podcasts). Is it really good enough to rip vinyls with it? I never thought about it, but that's mostly because I never thought that I could get a good result at recording my vinyls without music studio microphones.
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Re: How do I rip?

Postby lini » 16 Aug 2018 20:55

Y_F: Well, you wouldn't rip via microphones anyway, but via the line-level input - i.e. directly from the line-out of a phono stage or via the tape/record output of a pre-amp/integrated amp/receiverto the line-in of the PCM-M10. Iirc, in the review by German Stereoplay magazine the SNR directly to the medium was 98 dB - roundtrip (i.e. line-in to line/headphone-out) it's a couple of dezibels less (foremost due to the somewhat lower output voltage compared to for example a dedicated CD player for home use...). So one could say its recording quality isn't far above CD quality (extended frequency response with 96 kHz sampling rate aside, of course), but that's anything but bad for a little, protable recorder, which isn't significantly bigger than a box of cigarettes. And it's also still easily good enough for record ripping, although one could certainly squeeze out a tiny bit more quality by using a higher quality digital recorder (like for example the Tascam DA-3000) or higher quality soundcard or external sound-interface - that wouldn't really be significant, however, as the recording quality will be foremost limited by record noise (as well as phono-stage noise to a lesser degree).

So just hook the little Sony to your system and give it a try. You'll probably be positively surprised. It's really a pity that the PCM-M10 has been discontinued, though, as in my view it so far was the best among the very compact digital field recorders for hifi use. Gladly enough I've still bought mine in time...

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Re: How do I rip?

Postby Dimal » 18 Aug 2018 12:51

Terrific Primer to be found here and definitely worth reading... 8-)
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/rip_it_1_e.html

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