Cable or Colouration..

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by jdjohn » 31 Oct 2019 21:57

No argument from me. I know that cables (at any point in the chain) make a difference.

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by goatbreath » 31 Oct 2019 22:42

Please don't turn this into a cable,can you or can you not hear the difference thread..
It was not intended this way..
It is about type of cable is most adequate for the job...

I think the longer cable is probably inferior materials and of much higher capacitance etc..
Or that is my conclusion anyway..
I am only concerned with stuff that can be measured,so I know what cable to go for....
Hence me putting up what I am thinking I about buying..
Hence my comment about Chord not divulging the capacitance of their cables..
The cable manufacturers hide facts and come out with pseudo science and marketing tosh..
Whether cables of adequate quality sound different is not being discussed..
It is whether the cable was adequate in the first place
and can I buy one looking at vaiable measured specs that can do the job better..

People will argue in circles about commercially available interconnects making a difference..
This has been done to death..It never ends well and ends up a Stale Mate..
Though often both sides think they have won..lol
I know myself that discussion is pointless..
Both sides are believers..

Please don't hijack the thread to turn it into one of those threads...
It didn't start out with that intention..

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by goatbreath » 31 Oct 2019 22:57

Actually I was just Wondering he Capacitance of Whirlwind guitar cable..
I have a 29 year old Whirlwind leader cable that is still going..
I found the solder connection on Klotz and Planet waves etc broke and Whirlwind seemed to sound bolder and have more bite..Of course musical instruments and their gear are not about being tonally neutral..
I found this chart of specs though..

http://www.shootoutguitarcables.com/gui ... chart.html

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by cafe latte » 31 Oct 2019 23:13

jdjohn wrote:
31 Oct 2019 21:57
No argument from me. I know that cables (at any point in the chain) make a difference.
Cables of equal capacitance and resistance with good shielding will sound the same. Long cables like the OP is using will have capacitance issues for MM and MI.
Chris

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by goatbreath » 31 Oct 2019 23:26

cafe latte wrote:
31 Oct 2019 23:13
jdjohn wrote:
31 Oct 2019 21:57
No argument from me. I know that cables (at any point in the chain) make a difference.
Cables of equal capacitance and resistance with good shielding will sound the same. Long cables like the OP is using will have capacitance issues for MM and MI.
Chris
The cable I am using is between the Phono Stage and Amplifier though..
I can only gather the capacitance is very. high..

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by cafe latte » 01 Nov 2019 00:14

goatbreath wrote:
31 Oct 2019 23:26
cafe latte wrote:
31 Oct 2019 23:13
jdjohn wrote:
31 Oct 2019 21:57
No argument from me. I know that cables (at any point in the chain) make a difference.
Cables of equal capacitance and resistance with good shielding will sound the same. Long cables like the OP is using will have capacitance issues for MM and MI.
Chris
The cable I am using is between the Phono Stage and Amplifier though..
I can only gather the capacitance is very. high..
Then less of a problem, but far from ideal.
Chris

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by goatbreath » 08 Nov 2019 11:43

OK..

I had a pair of 5 Metre cables made up using this stuff.
.https://shop.klotz-ais.com/media/msdocu ... 5000_e.pdf

And some Pallacs ? RCA Phono Plugs..

The minute the stylus hit the record,my bass was back,the transformation was huge..
No Snake Oil...Just total relief that I had done the right thing..
Considering they are 5 Metres they sound amazing...

I am just so relieved my Problem was fixable..

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by jdjohn » 08 Nov 2019 16:11

Those look like nicely designed cables. Did they shunt one end of the shielding to make them 'directional'? It helps reduce RFI/EMI.

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Re: Cable or Colouration..

Post by goatbreath » 08 Nov 2019 16:58

jdjohn wrote:
08 Nov 2019 16:11
Those look like nicely designed cables. Did they shunt one end of the shielding to make them 'directional'? It helps reduce RFI/EMI.
I don't think so,no marks on them to indicate anything like that and he never mentioned it..
They sound ace whatever is happening.
I am very happy with them.. :D :D