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Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 17 Nov 2017 05:38
by Mavhs
I can’t fit both the damper kit and my Q Up tone arm lift on the plinth of my Music Hall 7.3. Anyone else have luck with this set up? Would love to add the damper but also want the convenience of tone arm lifter :x . have a new Oracle Damper kit for 9cc for $175 Plus shipping if anyone is interested. I’m using Herbie’s Halo Jr. Tone Arm Damper instead. Noticing a tighter bass and more detailed highs. Will need more testing to further evaluate.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 17 Nov 2017 09:19
by cafe latte
I have not read the whole thread, but early on it was asked if anyone has fitted a damping kit (silicone) to an arm. I fitted one to a Technics arm and it made a huge difference ie from not bad to really good. I am sure this kit will yield the same results.
Chris

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 17 Nov 2017 21:50
by Mavhs
Which kit? This is specifically Oracle damping kit for Pro-Ject 9cc so not sure it’s relevant.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 14:43
by misterdog
Self amalgamating silicone tape,wrapped around the arm has the same effect but with considerably less effort and cash :D

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 15:52
by Mavhs
How far do you wrap? Pic?

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 21:34
by cafe latte
misterdog wrote:Self amalgamating silicone tape,wrapped around the arm has the same effect but with considerably less effort and cash :D
No it doesnt you will just be damping arm vibrations (maybe). Silicone dampers are a trough of silicone oil and a paddle which damps the arm movements as the stylus tracks the record. Totally different thing to damping the wand of an arm. See link https://www.oracle-audio.com/project-9cc-damping-kit
Silicone dampers also widen the compliance on an arm too tape does not do this.
Chris

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 17:00
by Mavhs
I'd like to use the silicone damping kit, but the problem is I don't have enough room for an arm lift. Q-Up doesn't work. I purchased one from eBay to see if it fixes the issue. Any other suggestions are very much welcome :)

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 27 Nov 2017 01:05
by Budddhacide
Does anyone know what the fluid is precisely? I need to get some more. Oracle told me a while back it was a secret formulation, but I'm skeptical lol.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 27 Nov 2017 02:11
by cafe latte
Budddhacide wrote:Does anyone know what the fluid is precisely? I need to get some more. Oracle told me a while back it was a secret formulation, but I'm skeptical lol.
It is a silicon oil, Kabusa sells it cheaply.
Chris

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 27 Nov 2017 11:50
by misterdog
Used for RC model cars, though there are many weights (viscosities).

'Secret formula' implies they may have mixed some, or just marketing speak for justifying their charges.

Also used in the tonearm lift.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 28 Nov 2017 00:08
by Budddhacide
Thanks. I'm curious whether the Kab fluid is comparable. I'm sure it's in the ballpark.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 28 Nov 2017 16:35
by readargos
I bought the kit from Mavhs. I can now confirm that it mounts on a 10cc EVO arm. The hole in the tonearm base where the trough attaches is the same size as the 9cc. It took about 30 minutes to get the kit mounted and aligned. Much of that was simply finding the right sized allen keys.

Alas, I did not get to the point of rebalancing the tonearm, nor filling the trough with fluid, for before-after comparisons.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 28 Nov 2017 16:53
by Mavhs
awesome @readargos! What do you think of the sound pre / post installation?

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 30 Nov 2017 02:19
by Budddhacide
That's good to know.

Re: Oracle silicone damping kit for 9cc arms

Posted: 30 Nov 2017 16:06
by readargos
It's been a busy week for me, coming back from vacation after taking off Thanksgiving week. I got the kit installed, and rebalanced the tonearm to account for the change in tracking force so I could spin some vinyl. Unfortunately, I have been too tired at night to play enough music both to warm up the cartridge, and then continue to sit up for before-after comparisons. I'll report back, soon.