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Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 11 Mar 2019 17:07
by tlscapital
vinyl master wrote:
11 Mar 2019 03:54
And the correct answer, boys and girls, is...NOT as many as I'd LIKE to have! :wink: :lol:
Evidently never enough ! :cry:

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 18 Mar 2019 18:56
by VinyldechezPierre
tlscapital wrote:
11 Mar 2019 17:07
Evidently never enough ! :cry:
Why?

At just a little over 1000 albums and with about 2 hours a day of real listening (as opposed to music as background noise), I barely listen to anything in my "collection" (I'm not really a collector) because I'm always trying to find new music to listen to.

Most of the good, new music I find doesn't become part of the "collection" because it's available on the web anytime I want it.

Actually, most of what I buy today is stuff I won't find on the web for a listen anytime I want... For exemple, just bought a 4-records box set of Boulez music. Who's going to put that on the web?

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 18 Mar 2019 19:05
by andybeau
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
18 Mar 2019 18:56
Actually, most of what I buy today is stuff I won't find on the web for a listen anytime I want... For exemple, just bought a 4-records box set of Boulez music. Who's going to put that on the web?
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Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 18 Mar 2019 19:28
by VinyldechezPierre
Thank you.

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 19 Mar 2019 00:49
by tlscapital
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
18 Mar 2019 18:56
tlscapital wrote:
11 Mar 2019 17:07
Evidently never enough ! :cry:
Why?

At just a little over 1000 albums and with about 2 hours a day of real listening (as opposed to music as background noise), I barely listen to anything in my "collection" (I'm not really a collector) because I'm always trying to find new music to listen to.

Most of the good, new music I find doesn't become part of the "collection" because it's available on the web anytime I want it.

Actually, most of what I buy today is stuff I won't find on the web for a listen anytime I want... For exemple, just bought a 4-records box set of Boulez music. Who's going to put that on the web?
Oh la-la Pierre ! Du calme - du calme ! Bon, in English. Not everyone is made of the same wood. As a kid (14) I started crate digging into records seeking to discover more things. Collecting mainly "underground" sixties and seventies black American (& Jamaican before) music on original pressings, mostly 45rpm's. So it's 1 or 2 good tracks per record.

Then I got to learn and discover a lot by myself while crate digging every where for "cheap" deals. With only few mentor collectors around and too few trusting ones in the same vein around... Mind you there was no proper book guides nor internet either back then. So that original "fire" to seek and to own to play home and out is still "burning".

And since I also seek small, independent, sometimes cheap projects/productions records, believe me they are abound. Still loads to acquire, buy and/or trade ! And I try to keep my collection "clean"; with no multiples or different releases of the same record. And I do only keep the records I play. Those I don't like anymore do go on trades.... :wink:

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 19 Mar 2019 03:09
by vinyl master
Absolutely, tlscapital...I'm so glad to see the crate-digging spirit alive and well in the world...It apparently has not stopped many a DJ from getting into the habit quite deeply (Think Questlove, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Carl Cox, DJ Shadow, Dr. Dre, Grandmaster Flash, etc.)...

Which collectors have the largest collections in the world? Check out this list...There are quite a few whose collections number into the thousands, with a select couple into the millions...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_record_collectors

I think the art of (and passion for) discovery is what propels some of us...We're not just happy with the common stuff...We want to go searching for those diamonds in the rough, you know...The oddball, the strange, the rare and unique...The one-of-a-kind, hard-to-find records...It's like...as Bloodstone once sang...a natural high! :D

And it's hard to describe it, unless you've been there getting all dusty for hours and feeling that euphoria when you find that one gem in the back of a crate somewhere while down on your knees or sprawled out on the record store floor...I guess it's the same as with any other high, except you don't (usually) hurt yourself or others in the process...Once you get a taste of it, you want to taste it more and more...It can borderline on obsession, but like I said, if you keep it in good fun, you can get a lot of enjoyment out of the hunt, the chase, the journey... :wink:

And it's so great when you find something that you think...No one else has ever heard this, and you say to yourself, "This is SOOO good, I need to share this with the rest of the world!" I get that feeling sometimes and those moments are what make this hobby so enriching and worthwhile! :)

When it comes down to it, here's how I look at it...You either get it or you don't...

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 19 Mar 2019 03:22
by vinyl master
Another thing about vinyl for me is the parameters I set up for myself...With some genres or artists, there is a limited amount of material you can collect on them, so there's this amazing, triumphant feeling when you complete a set of records or a discography, especially if it's an artist where you know there won't be any more recordings from them or if it's something rare that you might not ever see again, like the one 45' from a local band that never made another one...You can control those things a bit...With digital and USB, there are so many choices and it's nice when you can limit your choices and enjoy those certain records a little bit more and listen to them more than once, getting something different out of them each time...With some artists who have endless discographies of good music, it's a bit harder...Of course, with others, the artists may not be as good as when they were in their heyday and there is a select group of releases that are influential, instrumental and mandatory, while the rest of their catalog maybe isn't AS worthy...And you can just focus on the good stuff! :D

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 19 Mar 2019 23:04
by Delta17
I tend to count infrequently, but have about 32 linear feet of vinyl at the moment. The thrift just got about 5 feet a few months ago. Is the math 80 records per foot. if I recall. Then there's gatefolds, boxes, oddball things like a popcorn box on a Hot Butter album, or Spinny disc space in Zeppelin III, who knows what a Tull record is gonna do...

Anyway. Not many. But I do measure in feet.

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 20 Mar 2019 06:08
by goatbreath
Between 3000 and 5000.. :)

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 20 Mar 2019 10:29
by tlscapital
vinyl master wrote:
19 Mar 2019 03:09
Absolutely, tlscapital...I'm so glad to see the crate-digging spirit alive and well in the world... apparently has not stopped many a DJ from getting into the habit quite deeply (Think Questlove, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Carl Cox, DJ Shadow, Dr. Dre, Grandmaster Flash, etc.)...
With all respect due, those "DJ's" are more using the records for "loops", "breaks" "mixes" and "drama" like "recycling" bits of the music rather than valorizing the artistry in the records and for the full of it. Something else than a "disc jockey as I am (mostly home though :wink: ); basic : "old school" Christened as a "selecter", I do not necessarily follow tempos (even less BPM), moods and/or similarity between records. I don't even "mix" them up...

Got a bit into the rap thing early 9T's, so am not prejudiced. Even got to meet some 'B-boys' during my records crate digging journeys. Some I still am in touch with. Funnily they got to, much later in their life, dig what and how I am digging my records, my music and my "selecter" DJ way. Where they use no to as they where only seeking for the smaller parts of it... THE MIX-able bit ! Either I love a record, dig it or not. Intellectually, I have no room for music.

You'll never hear me quoting music I listen to as "interesting". Different "records" tribes, which in respect I have learn that I don't have to agree to all to their codes, ways and likings. It's a mutual understanding and respect we can have toward our peculiar ways of collecting and listening to our music. Or not. One can tell between those who dare to seek and discover new things in and out of the "canvas" with a curious ear. And those who don't but might one day. Or not.
vinyl master wrote:
19 Mar 2019 03:09
Which collectors have the largest collections in the world? Check out this list...There are quite a few whose collections number into the thousands, with a select couple into the millions...
Quantity as such doesn't impress me. The "completist" attitude archiving with some knowledge or the "passionate" who keeps only that he loves with earbuds/taste of his/her own and who has gathered "volume" of records through the decades do fascinate me. Other vanity or psychic disorder behavior of young adults gathering LP's or other format of records in card board box truly don't interest me. Do not need to be impressed nor feel the need to be "competitive".
vinyl master wrote:
19 Mar 2019 03:09
I think the art of (and passion for) discovery is what propels some of us...We're not just happy with the common stuff...We want to go searching for those diamonds in the rough, you know...The oddball, the strange, the rare and unique...The one-of-a-kind, hard-to-find records...It's like...as Bloodstone once sang...a natural high!
Exactly.
vinyl master wrote:
19 Mar 2019 03:09
When it comes down to it, here's how I look at it...You either get it or you don't...
Yes. That is why I stress out that I am referring to those "record collectors" who do have respectable ethics on top of their love for their music. Not to those who don't. Like those who steal (still too many of them around), rip-off (wheeler dealers) or need to own all the records with envy (mental/emotional manic disorder) but no true love for the music. With things of passion, Evil is always around the corner, hiding in the shadow, awaiting to jump on the heart strings...

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 23 Mar 2019 16:52
by VinyldechezPierre
tlscapital wrote:
19 Mar 2019 00:49
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
18 Mar 2019 18:56
tlscapital wrote:
11 Mar 2019 17:07
Evidently never enough ! :cry:
Why?

...
Oh la-la Pierre ! Du calme - du calme !
I'm cool. :lol:

I don't shoot collectors anymore than I shoot Justin Bieber lovers. :D

And, like you if I got you right, I make a difference between the collector lover of music and the collector who measures his collection by the weight. Like the idiot in Brazil who couldn't measure his collection by the foot, like someone earlier, because his collection will never be put up on shelves. It will stay in the crates that he so proudly stands on in his most famous photo.

However, yes, even lover-of-music collectors bother me. They're only listening to a small, tiny, tiny percentage of their collection and they can't take it to heaven. So, what's the point?

As I said earlier, I barely have time to listen to my own very small number of records so, how am I supposed to understand those with 5000, 10000 or more records?

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 24 Mar 2019 09:25
by davidsss
I like owning lots of records because it means I can go to the shelf and think, what do I feel like, and get something which suits my mood. Mind you, I reckon I'll probably die with maybe 2,500 to 3,000 records so not ridiculous. I am a completist but have also listened to just about every record I own, just a few picture discs and the like.

I will only buy a record if I will listen to it, doesn't matter how rare or expensive it is, records are made to be played.

DS

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 24 Mar 2019 10:43
by tlscapital
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
23 Mar 2019 16:52

I'm cool. :lol:

I don't shoot collectors anymore than I shoot Justin Bieber lovers. :D
To shoot the collectors will bring them records back onto the market :D

To shoot J.B. should diminish his fan's enthousiasm :o
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
23 Mar 2019 16:52
And, like you if I got you right, I make a difference between the collector lover of music and the collector who measures his collection by the weight. Like the idiot in Brazil who couldn't measure his collection by the foot, like someone earlier, because his collection will never be put up on shelves. It will stay in the crates that he so proudly stands on in his most famous photo.
You did :wink:

What a prick that rich ego-maniac troll... And yes, for example I've had him in mind as well when I was refereeing to those who want to own but do not to listen to their "collector's" records.

Just like for those who say too much VTF will damage the record and/or the stylus... If more VTF gives you the playback you prefer, enjoy your listening time. Recors and turntables are meant to meet.
VinyldechezPierre wrote:
23 Mar 2019 16:52
However, yes, even lover-of-music collectors bother me. They're only listening to a small, tiny, tiny percentage of their collection and they can't take it to heaven. So, what's the point?

As I said earlier, I barely have time to listen to my own very small number of records so, how am I supposed to understand those with 5000, 10000 or more records?
Every records I have I have fully listened to and more than once. When I have home music sessions, it can last up to 6 hours. Alone, loud and with a thought for the neighbors. Like that since a teen...

To give you a "notion", when I do DJ out, I just do not use headphones to "cue-fit" the stylus in the run-in groove of the records. That I do by "eye". I know my records pretty well. Just like I love them.

So unlike most of all the DJ's, at least for those I have seen to this day, who do use headphones in order to "cue-mix" and evidently hear if the following tune will be the right fit or not, I simply do not !

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 24 Mar 2019 11:39
by VinyldechezPierre
tlscapital wrote:
24 Mar 2019 10:43
To shoot the collectors will bring them records back onto the market :D

Here's an idea.... :lol:



Every records I have I have fully listened to and more than once. When I have home music sessions, it can last up to 6 hours. Alone, loud and with a thought for the neighbors. Like that since a teen...

To give you a "notion", when I do DJ out, I just do not use headphones to "cue-fit" the stylus in the run-in groove of the records. That I do by "eye". I know my records pretty well. Just like I love them.

So unlike most of all the DJ's, at least for those I have seen to this day, who do use headphones in order to "cue-mix" and evidently hear if the following tune will be the right fit or not, I simply do not !
Whether a professional DJ or not, you work in music so that you spend a lot more time listening to music than the average Joe. So did I when I worked in the business. I was a sound engineer, once upon a time.

But I'm not talking about someone like you. Or like VM who obviously knows (so listens) to his records. I'm only talking about me. About the average Joe who tends to listen to the same "few" records all the time. Ok, I exaggerate somewhat but I did buy a 300 CD player to help me listen to my CDs. And honestly, using this player mostly in random mode has helped me re-discover my collection.

:roll:

Re: Poll: How many records do you have?

Posted: 31 Mar 2019 00:47
by Bob Dillon
davidsss wrote:
24 Mar 2019 09:25
I like owning lots of records because it means I can go to the shelf and think, what do I feel like, and get something which suits my mood. Mind you, I reckon I'll probably die with maybe 2,500 to 3,000 records so not ridiculous. I am a completist but have also listened to just about every record I own, just a few picture discs and the like.

I will only buy a record if I will listen to it, doesn't matter how rare or expensive it is, records are made to be played.

DS
I can dig that. I don't like seeing many records that I have acquired that I haven't actually listened to, I want to know what's on each one. I get away from simple record hoarders / accumulators, some of those guys have some more deep seated issues. That said, I have quite a few records I am intending to listen to at some point. =D>