DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

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s-and
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DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by s-and » 15 Aug 2019 13:05

Hi all,
please help me choose, which Turntable is better DUAL CS510 or DUAL CS505-3(-4)?
the price is the same ~100-120 EUR.
And I will buy a new cartridge for this turntable, Ortofon OM 10 or Ortofon 2MRed, also need your advice.

Thank you all in advance!
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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by lini » 18 Aug 2019 11:42

s-and: The 505-3 & -4 both are 3rd gen. ULM models with very light tonearms and hence best suited for highly to very highly compliant cartridges/needles - while the trend nowadays goes to moderately highly compliant cartridges/needles for medium-heavy arms. Both that and the somewhat more substantial build of the 510 in my view would rather speak for going for that, even though it's a couple of years older. And I'd suggest to consider an AT-VM95ML instead of one of the two entry-level Ortofons - that'll cost you a good bit more, but will provide you with way better quality.

Greetings from Munich!

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by DSJR » 18 Aug 2019 18:21

+1

The 510 is the better deck, has the better arm for modern cartridges and as above, more substantial construction. The OM10 and derived 2M Red sound a bit rough and scratchy these days (you need to to to the 2M Bronze/OM30 in my opinion to get the refinement and some 'punch'). The VN95 range is excellent I gather (I've yet to try one here) and if you can stretch to the 95ML, I think you'll be delighted! The 510 tonearm design isn't so different to the best Duals of the era where it matters and believe me, you'd be surprised the level of cartridges you can fit in these - the supplied Shure was underselling it in my experience.

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by 62vauxhall » 19 Aug 2019 13:39

Some years ago, after reconditioning a 510 for re-sale, I looked online for what they were selling for. In doing so, I came across a statement claiming "the 510 was one of the better Duals".

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by s-and » 19 Aug 2019 22:01

Thank you all for your answers. Please tell me where can I buy 510 as new or in good condition? On ebay, they are only sold with broken or scratched cases. May be anyone sell 510 here?

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by s-and » 21 Aug 2019 20:10

lini wrote:
18 Aug 2019 11:42
s-and: The 505-3 & -4 both are 3rd gen. ULM models with very light tonearms and hence best suited for highly to very highly compliant cartridges/needles - while the trend nowadays goes to moderately highly compliant cartridges/needles for medium-heavy arms. Both that and the somewhat more substantial build of the 510 in my view would rather speak for going for that, even though it's a couple of years older. And I'd suggest to consider an AT-VM95ML instead of one of the two entry-level Ortofons - that'll cost you a good bit more, but will provide you with way better quality.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
Tell me please, AT-VM95SH will be better for dual 510 than AT-VM95ML?

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by lini » 25 Aug 2019 11:41

s-and: That's a matter of individual taste and system synergy, so I can't offer you any advice regarding that question. Personally I'd rather go for the sharper ML.

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Re: DUAL CS510 vs DUAL CS505

Post by DSJR » 25 Aug 2019 19:10

Lowbeats site (German to English translator may be needed) has proper reviews and sound-bites on these VM95 models..

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