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Dual mounting template

Post by 62vauxhall » 23 Feb 2019 03:20

I have a mounting template that states it's for the 601, 701 and 1249. Is that same template compatible with other models? If so, can anyone say what models those are?

The reason for asking is that I have access to some lengths of hardwood at no cost. I also have temporary use of a well equipped work shop and thought I would manufacture a dozen or so bases for Dual turntables. They would not be for my own use.

The hardwood in question is of varying lengths which I've ripped and milled to approximately 1" in thickness and all the lengths selected are between 3 1/2" and 4" in width.

The above mentioned template is the only one I have so if I followed it, I was wondering what Dual models I'd be making bases for.

I can't imagine there being full size templates available online that are model specific.

Looking forward to any responses.

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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by 2002afan » 23 Feb 2019 03:55

If they are the same replacement plinth dimensions as the ones shown on Dualfred (his are real nice 8) ) it should fit the following models:

502, 504, 505 (all versions), 506, 510, 521, 601, 604, 606, 621, 622, 701, 704, 721, 1241, 1242, 1245, 1246, 1249, 1264.
Hopefully the Real DUAL experts will chime in. :wink:
Looking forward to seeing the workings in progress. :D
Cheers,
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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by 62vauxhall » 23 Feb 2019 05:45

Thanks 2002, that's a good range of models.

But that then means I need to get hold of one that matches the smaller 1200 series. Someone I know has a 1216 and I may have somewhat led her to believe she'd be getting one.

EDIT: Just had a look at those from Dualfred and yes, they do look nice. I was planning on doing mitered corners but I wont have the time. I'm just going to use butt joints with dowels.

I also won't be able to dado for the motor board. Those will just be cheap & cheerfully supported with buttresses glued or decoratively screwed in all 4 corners. And one of four different Naugahyde's will be on their surface.

It is mostly oak and sapele (hard mahogany) I'll be working with. There was walnut but only enough now for one base. I believe the person who originally acquired this wood used that up himself.

Because these will be a "rush job", I can't address dust covers. Flush mount hinges (if available) and fabricated lids would come afterwards.

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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by 2002afan » 23 Feb 2019 06:28

62vauxhall wrote:
23 Feb 2019 05:45
Thanks 2002, that's a good range of models.

But that then means I need to get hold of one that matches the smaller 1200 series. Someone I know has a 1216 and I may have somewhat led her to believe she'd be getting one.

EDIT: Just had a look at those from Dualfred and yes, they do look nice. I was planning on doing mitered corners but I wont have the time. I'm just going to use butt joints with dowels.

I also won't be able to dado for the motor board. Those will just be cheap & cheerfully supported with buttresses glued or decoratively screwed in all 4 corners. And one of four different Naugahyde's will be on their surface.

It is mostly oak and sapele (hard mahogany) I'll be working with. There was walnut but only enough now for one base. I believe the person who originally acquired this wood used that up himself.

Because these will be a "rush job", I can't address dust covers. Flush mount hinges (if available) and fabricated lids would come afterwards.
No problem keep us updated with some pictures. :D Good Luck.
Cheers,
WillO

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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by samba » 23 Feb 2019 10:38

62vauxhall wrote:
23 Feb 2019 05:45
But that then means I need to get hold of one that matches the smaller 1200 series. Someone I know has a 1216 and I may have somewhat led her to believe she'd be getting one.
You can download templates from the Vinylengine library for both small and large 1200 series tables. For the small 1200's, e.g. 1211/1214/1215/1218, the hole pattern is the same. The only difference is in the build heights (a,b,c,d,e and f). I guess with some common sense that can be translated into sizes for the 1216, as there is no dedicated template for the 1216 in the library.

See also Klaus' expalnation at viewtopic.php?f=37&t=82986#p682884
62vauxhall wrote:
23 Feb 2019 05:45
Because these will be a "rush job", I can't address dust covers. Flush mount hinges (if available) and fabricated lids would come afterwards.
You could consider off-the-shelf covers such as:
https://www.reloop.com/reloop-dust-cove ... -2000-4000
https://www.audiotechnicashop.com/index ... uct_id=747
They are reasonably priced and usually come with hinges. Be aware to check the available inner height of the lid to make sure the tonearm fits when the lid is closed. Also, these lids were not made for changers, so if you want to use the spindle, you will need to leave the lid open or take it off.

Would love to see the finished resultaat.

edit: small textual corrections

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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by scorpio333 » 27 Feb 2019 19:49

Easiest way to tell...two transport screws = no, three = yes.

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Re: Dual mounting template

Post by dualcan » 27 Feb 2019 21:10

Be careful with the screw count! The 505 has two screws, not three.
There are three cut out designs for Dual floating chassis we need to remember.
1. 1003 till 1008 uses a four suspension spring set up. These do not use the adjustable transit screws.
2. from the 1009 up and all floating chassis that have the smaller 270 mm platters (the last was 1258).
3. black floating chassis with 30cm/12" platters starting with the 1219 plus the 500, 600 and 700 series, all models using black floating chassis, with the beige colour exeption-505, which also uses this cut out.

If I was to make a plinth for the third series 12" platter units, I would make it fit the 1219 as it has the deepest motor. All others in that third series will fit because their motors are shallower.
The same goes for the second group of smaller players; make the height fit the 1009/1019, and all the units of that group, up to the 1258, will fit.
The first group all have identical depth requirement, if I recall.
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