The Never Ending SL-DD33 Story Part IV

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by P4t1n3tt3 » 18 May 2019 19:15

Yes that's right, I forgot. A little patience and you will discover if it's the SL-DD33 or the amp that is at fault.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by AsOriginallyRecorded » 18 May 2019 19:42

Having no personal experience listening to any in my past, perhaps you could define sounds like"s**t for the rest of us. This is a very good TT when properly set up and adjusted. What stylus have you actually installed on the cartridge...which if original is a quite good cartridge. Since you have done most of the normal steps involved putting a turntable back into service, the poor sound quality you describe must be attributed to something in the history of the turntable up to this point. Given the DD spec of the table, which Technics essentially invented and were masters of, mechanicals can generally be set aside at this point. Some people get all excited about replacing caps and such, but I have not encountered any such need on 7 different DD turntables, 4 of them Technics. Additional information would go a long way to helping you resolve the issue(s) you are experiencing. This is a very good TT worth refurbishing. Often the simplest of tweaks can eliminate seemingly complex problems, such as some of the suggestions thus far. A repeat of steps suggested can do no harm, but may reveal the problem as well. Hang in there...have faith. Cheers! :)

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chgc » 20 May 2019 04:03

The problem could be the cartridge body. I bought a used Technics pmount cart once in which one of the 4 elements that fit around the internal portion of the stylus was bent with the same result. This was actually visible through the hole in the cart body under magnification. You might want to try a different cart

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 21 May 2019 09:17

The belt for the pioneer arrived. Problem though the speed is not steady on this. Although it seems to sound better than the technics. There is some oxidation on the technics cartridge but on the outside...

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 21 May 2019 15:50

I listened carefully at a track on this technics, more than reverb what I can hear is some sort of noise like when there is saturation of sound, fuzzy sound. Could this depend on some pots or transistors or something? I am reading around it maybe due to misalignment or tracking force but there is nothing you can do on this turntable to adjust em.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by Van_Isle » 21 May 2019 16:08

No. No capacitors or transistors or pots in the signal stream of the turntable.

How exactly have you got the turntables connected? Are you using an amp or receiver with a phono input or are you using a separate phono pre-amp? Makes and models please, including the cartridges.

For the Pioneer, you'll need to clean the speed control pots, trim pots and switches with a contact cleaner, like Deoxit D5, and most likely adjust the trim pots.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by Van_Isle » 21 May 2019 16:10

Course you could have gotten a faulty replacement stylus.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 21 May 2019 16:25

I am using a Pioneer PL 2600 amp with phono input. The cartridge is the original Technics one and the stylus is this: http://www.gbconline.it/main.asp?L=1&CO ... 56.0003.49

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Post by Van_Isle » 21 May 2019 17:11

I expect you mean SX 2600.

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Post by chriz74 » 21 May 2019 17:24

Sorry PL-2600 is the turntable, the Amplifier is Pioneer A-445

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by Van_Isle » 21 May 2019 18:04

Make sure the amp is set to MM = Moving Magnet on the phono input.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 21 May 2019 18:48

yes it's on MM

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Post by chriz74 » 23 May 2019 12:58

I serviced the pioneer with g22 (dry contact cleaner) , I also remade the weldings. Now speed is steady, it sounds better than the technics, no fuzz. What can I do with the technics now?

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 23 May 2019 14:37

P.S. I forgot to mention that on a record that plays perfectly on the Pioneer the Technics skated, at the end of the record while still playing.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by pezman2112 » 23 May 2019 18:06

Sounds like the needle you got is bad

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