The Never Ending SL-DD33 Story Part IV

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Re: SL-DD33 w/ new needle still crackles and snaps on new record

Post by tlscapital » 05 May 2019 11:54

chriz74 wrote:
04 May 2019 10:01
So it’s normal behavior ? Why then DJ stuff doesn’t ? I don’t think they constantly clean their records. Is it the turntable? Is an sl 1200 better at this?
DJ's stuffs do suffer the same fate as homies gear. DJ volume and dampening hides and muffles such playback issues. I find the SL-1200 sonic signature too muffled for me and I do not particularly like that "DJ" sound. Although for those strong DD motors to damp the platter is crucial.

To clean your record is important but as long as they are not "dirty" with dirt and/or grease it is not that crucial for your "crackle" matter. Your issue might be static build up. This can be prove complex to source and address. Climat conditions, house/building configuration and records sleeving...

Use static "trap" mat on your platter (I use a worthless LP to do so) below an anti-static mat to lay your records on. Your "basic" turntable doesn't have VTA and that limits the height of your mats. And your P-mount cartridge doesn't give you much alternative choices if ever...

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Re: SL-DD33 w/ new needle still crackles and snaps on new record

Post by tlscapital » 05 May 2019 12:47

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05 May 2019 09:44
I saw people cleaning records using tap water. That is insane! That water contains minerals, limestone that will deposit on the record.
And some leave them "hanging" to drip-drop dry... But to clean them with even hot tap water is OK as long as the dry sweep is done vigorously with very soft absorbing material. I am not rich so don't have any of those expensive cleaning devices with lab liquid products, thus I had to find my own cleaning ways-out.

Before tintenet days that was. Collecting only old records, I don't get them always in the dream condition I'd love to own them. And since I play them it's not only visual, but audible as well that I expect the best out of them. So I have records who by the look and sound of them witnesses to have had a very traumatic life.

So I use different "cheap" affordable tricks for different groove pollution issues. Vynilic glue can be had in big quantities for cheap and it works great. Sometimes an isopropyl (I cut mine with descalled or ionized water) sweep on a cotton ball prior is helping. This always requires a strong clean dry sweep behind though.

The anti-static cloth is mandatory next to my turntable and those who play LP's a lot will benefit the "smarter" nylon brushes that have a "ground" (static discharger) handle. And finally pulling in and out the records gently and not leaving the inner paper sleeve in places where they will actually accumulate static is required.

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Re: SL-DD33 w/ new needle still crackles and snaps on new record

Post by zlartibartfast » 05 May 2019 19:54

I use only distilled water in an ultrasonic cleaner, then hand dry w/microfiber cloth. Then, every time I play the record, I spritz it w/ eye-glass lens cleaner (no alcohol) and run a Discwasher over the surface.

Every time you play the record, it will pick up stuff - pollen, skin cells, mucus - whatever is in the air. If you don't clean this stuff off, it will end up ground into your grooves.

Yes you must clean you records constantly *unless you play them in a vacuum* which would be an interesting thing of itself

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SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 11:13

So I put a new needle on this thing, the sound is crap! On a new record and in records in general I can hear a lot of reverb. The turntable is on a classic wooden stereo rack. One speaker is next to it however I don’t think that’s the problem as it sounds like s**t even at a very low volume. I compared the CD of the same album to the vinyl, CD sounds thousands times better. Clues? I ordered a new belt for my pl-2600 to be able to compare output of another turntable to this technics.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by P4t1n3tt3 » 18 May 2019 13:21

As I read this morning on another topic, the stylus may be improperly installed. Sometimes just a little.
Take it off and put it back, see if it's the same or better. Have you tried to restore the old stylus if it still works?

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by pezman2112 » 18 May 2019 14:20

I have the D93 version of this, sounds like the needle either isnt sitting properly in the cart or the needle is damaged

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 14:22

The needle is brand new and installed correctly. I’ll try to reseat it but I don’t think that’s the problem. The old needle is not good.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by jackie » 18 May 2019 16:26

Check the tracking force

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 16:33

The tracking force is unadjustable.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by Van_Isle » 18 May 2019 16:50

Is the speed correct and steady?

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 17:05

Speed is steady yes. I also lubricated the motor.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by P4t1n3tt3 » 18 May 2019 18:06

Is it a turntable you've had for a long time or a recent aquisition? If it has not served for a long time, I will look if there is no oxidation on the connectors (cartridge, RCA cables, phono inputs ...)

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 18:08

I used dry contact cleaner on the cartridge connector. However they did not seem oxidated. It was a friend’s turntable, he gave to me for free. I don’t know how he stored it.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by P4t1n3tt3 » 18 May 2019 18:16

If you can connect the turntable to another amp at a friend's house or loan you another turntable, it will allow you to see where the problem is.

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Re: SL-DD33 sounds like s**t

Post by chriz74 » 18 May 2019 19:04

As I said, I’m waiting for the new belt for my pioneer to be able to compare.

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