Cartridges, styli, and confusion

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 11 Jul 2019 15:30

ricksbsa wrote:
11 Jul 2019 06:35
Split the wood 1/4" away from the glue joint. it was a compound miter.
That is a shame, maybe it had been reglued using modern glue. Is it repairable? If not make your own or buy a plinth on eBay (making damn sure the seller packs it safely)...

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 11 Jul 2019 15:37

vanakaru wrote:
11 Jul 2019 13:01
But I need to get something to clean lps
Andrew, get destilled water. Then wash LP's with odourless mild dishwashing liquid solution. I use foam sponge(not the kitchen one with scrubbing part - actually I have special foam). I lay the record on the soft cloth on the table and run soapy foam around along the grooves. Then run under the tap a bit. Finally spray destilled water and wipe dry with microfiber cloth. Let dry for awhile before play.
I will do that from now on Vanakaru but the glue (or whatever) on the LP is not water soluble — does anyone know if mineral spirits, i.e. common household paint thinner, is safe to use on an lp?

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 11 Jul 2019 15:54

derspankster wrote:
11 Jul 2019 14:39
I am happy to hear that you're listening to your turntable. And yes, clean your records as vanakaru says. It's a good thing to dust them off before you play them as well. I have used a variety of record brushes over time but believe it or not, some time ago I started using a Swiffer that is sold a a household cleaning product and found that it does an excellent job. We even had them in the house already. Discovered that AR turntable guru Marc Morin also uses them when I visited him recently. (Guess I should duck again for that bit heresy - the Swiffer part)
Thanks Derspankster! I had so much fun yesterday listening to music, just putting on one LP after another, I haven't done anything like that in decades.
I put Swiffer on my shopping list...

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by ricksbsa » 11 Jul 2019 16:22

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No, it was original in almost mint condition. I can repair and refinish the plinth, but I think I need to take the lid apart and refinish for a match. The plastic is still shiny new looking and I don't want to scratch it.
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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by vanakaru » 11 Jul 2019 18:18

andrew678122 wrote:
11 Jul 2019 15:37
does anyone know if mineral spirits, i.e. common household paint thinner, is safe to use on an lp?
Please NO! Be very careful with solvents/thinners. You could use ethanol(rubbing alcohol it calls in US) but sometimes it is too much - specially if too pure (90% proof). Maybe start with solution in water. Dishwashing detergent may seep under the clue and get it off. If it is some fast curing stuff your record is doomed, also epo will not come off. White Spirit is somewhat safe to try. I would start with some junk record you wouldn't be sad to loose.
One thing you could try specially if you have wood(Elmers)clue on it. Try to clean your record with said clue. There are some good and some ridiculous videos about it on tube. Basically you cover the groove area(not the label) evenly with Elmers clue, let it dry and peel it off as skin. It takes everything that is not the vinyl with it unless the dirt has stronger bond with record surface than with the clue. I have done this on numerous LPs that did not clean with soap and it does work very well - whatever some jokers say.

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by derspankster » 11 Jul 2019 19:23

I use a Spin Clean and it does a decent job. 40-50 years ago I used distilled water with a drop or two of dish soap. Actually cleaned some records with tap water. Guess what? I still listen to a lot of those old jazz records that are 40-50 years old and they still sound good. The Spin Clean does much the same thing but I find it faster and a neater to use.

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 11 Jul 2019 21:58

ricksbsa wrote:
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005.JPGNo, it was original in almost mint condition. I can repair and refinish the plinth, but I think I need to take the lid apart and refinish for a match. The plastic is still shiny new looking and I don't want to scratch it.$_57 (1).jpg
Ah! I assumed you had an AR since this is the AR forum. I really can't speak about your TT since I know even less about it than I know about my AR XA...

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 11 Jul 2019 22:09

ricksbsa wrote:
11 Jul 2019 16:22
005.JPGNo, it was original in almost mint condition. I can repair and refinish the plinth, but I think I need to take the lid apart and refinish for a match. The plastic is still shiny new looking and I don't want to scratch it.$_57 (1).jpg
Hey Rick, is it just the one joint damaged and does it fit together like it should? If so, I'd probably try to glue and clamp it, and maybe a little very careful refinishing...

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by ricksbsa » 11 Jul 2019 23:17

Yes, it does. I haven't done woodwork since woodshop in highschool, but I'm confident I can do it. What concerns me is scarring the plastic cover. That's why I asked about any type of non destructive procedure to remove one side of the cover and slide the plastic out.

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by ricksbsa » 11 Jul 2019 23:21

I restore classic cars and motorcycles for a living, and at times it's better to leave somethings cosmetically alone and not make a relatively minor flaw worse.

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 15 Jul 2019 21:34

I have finished my AR XA rebuild and am very pleased with the way it all turned out. I want to thank everyone for their advice and support, the rebuild would have been a lot more difficult without it. So here is the end result:
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At the last minute I added a grounding post and tied all grounds to it:
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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by lenjack » 15 Jul 2019 21:41

If it sound as good as it looks, you're in fine shape. Congrats. :!: =P~ [-o< :) 8) :wink:

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by derspankster » 15 Jul 2019 21:46

Nice job Andrew!

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Re: Cartridges, styli, and confusion

Post by andrew678122 » 20 Jul 2019 20:50

lenjack wrote:
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If it sound as good as it looks, you're in fine shape. Congrats. :!: =P~ [-o< :) 8) :wink:
Thanks Lenjack, to me it sounds great!
derspankster wrote:
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Nice job Andrew!
And thanks Derspankster!
It was fun to rebuild it, and as much fun to listen to after!

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