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rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 08 Aug 2019 21:24
by tlcrf450
I am upgrading my system (onkyo A7 integrated amp,klipsch icon wf35 speakers. project carbon debut TT) replacing the project TT with a rega p3 with a ortofon 2m bronze ,groovetracer subplatter, delrin plater , and their counter weight.. have I gone overboard or is this a significant improvement in my system..( I have not assembled the new rega TT system yet)

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 08 Aug 2019 22:01
by vintagevinyllover
can't comment on the cart but the other changes are significant - add a Rega white belt to finish it off!

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 09 Aug 2019 12:37
by Jampot90
Is the P3 for sale with the upgrades described already installed?

You should find the Rega a decent upgrade but if you have to buy and fit the mods as you go I would caution against over spending compared (say) to a used P6.

Jim

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 09 Aug 2019 13:59
by Alec124c41
That turntable should be an excellent combination.
Overboard? Not for this forum! ;)
Get it on.

Cheers,
Alec

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 09 Aug 2019 20:32
by fudgemaster
Agreed. Keep going, and enjoy the musical improvements.

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 09 Aug 2019 22:07
by Mr Pig
I'm always reluctant to recommend modifying turntables. Not that the mods won't work, some will and are similar to features seen on more expensive retail products, but for me the maths often don't stack up.

There are two things to consider. Firstly, the cost of the mods often add up to close to the cost of a better turntable and secondly, you don't get the investment back when you sell the deck. Buyers typically prefer products that are not 'messed with' so you often find that either you are stuck with the modded deck or take a bath on selling it.

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 10 Aug 2019 14:39
by tlcrf450
thanks everyone..hopefully my last turntable!! I still a Sony psx-500 from the early 1980's that works fine ! thanks for the advice..

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 10 Aug 2019 16:57
by fudgemaster
Your last turntable? Hmmmmm.........

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 11 Aug 2019 18:25
by tlcrf450
oops.. for jampot90... no ,I am adding the mods.. easy to install... all told with the p3 ,the 2m bronze cartridge( I already had) the groovetracer subplatter, Delrin platter, and counter weight puts it close to 2k..! my understanding is that the p6 would need the same mods..so I am hopeful this should be good option for under 2k

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 11 Aug 2019 21:52
by andybeau
The new p6 is a different beast to the old one. Personally I would buy a p6 or 8 rather than p3 and upgrade

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 13 Aug 2019 22:22
by Jampot90
A P3 is never going to be a £2k TT!

Jim

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 14 Aug 2019 08:01
by DeepEnd
Although I am in favour of a few mods on the 3 series (in particular metal subplatters) having looked at the cost of more expensive mods I can to the conclusion it would be more cost effective to sell the modded 3 and buy a P6. Whilst demoing a P6 was offered an ex-demo RP8 for about the same cost. At just over £1,000 it’s staggeringly good.

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 14 Aug 2019 14:57
by hedgehog35
I had one of the original Planar 3 turntables with RB300 arm for 18 years.
Have to agree with Mr Pig and DeepEnd in that I would think carefully about what 'upgrades' you do and what the total cost would be. Over my time of owning the Rega, I changed the motor, belt, mat , platter and eventually had an arm rewire done by Johnnie at Audio Origami.
If it was me, my order of upgrades would be:
1. If the P3 does not have the 24V motor, I would get the Rega upgrade kit, you could then use one of the outboard power supplies (TTSU or Neo).
2. Get a light weight, rigid wall self specifically designed for turntables. It depends on what your current TT is sitting on, but this could potentially be the biggest improvement you make (it was for me).
After this it can be hard to decide if any further upgrades improve the sound or simply change it to something different.
I tried a Delrin platter and it certainly changed the sound, but not convinced it was better.
The Origin Live Platter Mat was a definitely a 'keeper', but again quite expensive for a turntable mat.
The Groovetracer sub platter and Delrin platter are beautifully made (expatriate Scot!), but they are expensive, and as others have suggested, you may end up spending as much money as you would buying a Planar 6. Only you can decide if it is worth the cost.
Does the Rega come with the Ortofon bronze as a package? If not, try to get a listen to other cartridges. Digs out tons of detail from your vinyl but I found that Ortofons can have a slightly 'lean' sound (I had a 2M black), which doesn't always compliment a Rega deck. Again, it depends upon your ears and your system!
Best of luck with your upgrades.

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 15 Aug 2019 05:50
by Alec124c41
If you have money to spend, start with the best turntable you can handle.
My Rega is an old Planar 2. The metal subplatter raised its level of performance significantly.
Instead of spending money on exotic platters, I kept the glass one, and played with DIY mats of different materials.
I have a combination that I am happy with.
BTW, if your sound is slightly lean, try adding a couple of grams to the headshell, and resetting the VTF. A small coin is good for this. If you like the result, then a more elegant tweak can be found.

Cheers,
Alec

Re: rega p3 upgrades

Posted: 17 Aug 2019 17:36
by tlcrf450
thanks to all for the advice..I got the P3 the other day.. installed to groovetracer subplatter and Delrin platter..did not get their counterweight ..installed a 2mm spacer on the tone arm and then mounted my ortofon 2m Bronze cartridge ,,did my best to align cartridge using protractor .. the one problem I noticed while trying to balance the tone arm was that the tone arm wants to move towards the tone arm support bracket or away from the spindle... I was able to get it balanced but I ran out of time to play a record ( have not hooked up tt to my system)...has anyone heard of this?? I am worried when I play a record the stylus will scoot right off the record!!