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Headshell Wires

Postby mrwood » 17 Jun 2017 20:52

Do fancy wires sound better?
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby LD100 » 17 Jun 2017 23:40

The whole is the sum of the parts, I can't see using a $4000+ cartridge on a $5000+ tone arm and then use $5 head shell wires. You end up with an obvious weak link. #-o

To directly answer your question yes, I think so. But then I'm using Ortofon silver head shell wires on a Lyra Kleos SL mounted on a Ekos 2 tone arm with a Linn LP12 deck. =D>

Having said that I don't usually go in for exotic wires, I use plain 10 gauge copper wire for my speakers. :D

I think it's more important that the connectors are clean and making good contact.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby denvertrakker » 17 Jun 2017 23:45

Many folks would say yes, I say...maybe. If you have a super-duper high end cartridge, you might benefit from an expensive Litz wire set; otherwise, any decent (all copper) setup will git' er done. Some people like the six- or seven-nines OCC sets that run about US$20.

I'd venture that LOMCs benefit more from expensive wires than most MMs.

Prepare for many arguments on both sides...

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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby donovan » 18 Jun 2017 01:05

I believe for most cases a set like these are more than adequate. I have probably used a dozen of different ones the last few decades on some expensive moving coil carts, and these seemed just fine.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby mrwood » 18 Jun 2017 02:47

I've got a Denon DL-110 HOMC with problematic wires.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby LD100 » 18 Jun 2017 03:03

mrwood wrote:I've got a Denon DL-110 HOMC with problematic wires.


That's a well respected cartridge, I wouldn't skimp on leads but I wouldn't go nuts either...probably what ever you can afford in the $10 to $30 dollar range will sound fine. =D>

As I mentioned before, the connectors are an important part of the equation. :D
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby H. callahan » 18 Jun 2017 03:57

Think of the length the cables are in the tonearm. The length of the phonocables from the tt to the amp. And the cables in the tt from the tonearm to the phonocables. In comparison to that sum the headshell wires are a fraction of the way the signal has to travel and therefore can´t do much, even if fancy cables are better (which sometimes is questionable).

But they can degrade sound up to drop-outs if the connectors are bad/loose/corroded/dirty ect. .
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby mrwood » 18 Jun 2017 07:24

https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGSOARHD5.html
These look good, and the design supports the placebo effect. 8)
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby LD100 » 18 Jun 2017 07:51

mrwood wrote:https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGSOARHD5.html
These look good, and the design supports the placebo effect. 8)


Indeed, the connectors look strong. That's the ticket! :D
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby donovan » 18 Jun 2017 11:36

I've built dozens of interconnect cables for both home and pro audio. Anybody made their own headshell leads? How did they compare?
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby tlscapital » 18 Jun 2017 13:10

mrwood wrote:https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGSOARHD5.html
These look good, and the design supports the placebo effect. 8)


They do, but for having "destroyed" one pair (came to me free), I wouldn't recommend them for all the cartridges and heartless combination. The long bayonets of my cartridge imply to twist the wires. Those "shielded" wires are way to rigid to be twisted in an almost "loop" way that my cartridge requires.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby 1200y3 » 18 Jun 2017 17:00

With most MM cartridges, the cartridge pins are the most sensitive to noise. Thinner wires transmit noise and vibration, so thicker wires are better.

Made my own? I like silk or hemp braided (thread), or even solid wire soldered directly cut to fit. This is the one area that is neglected or misunderstood the most.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby donovan » 18 Jun 2017 18:12

Solid wire soldered directly to cartridge pins????
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby 1200y3 » 18 Jun 2017 18:58

Similar to CAT 5 strands.

But even on the other hand, there are clips available that don't fully cover the pins, and only a very tight ring fits the pin. Crimping is often favored for connection purity as well.

Just pay a grand for wires I guess, can't go wrong. :idea:

It wouldn't be too difficult to prove the experiments with a budget cartridge and cheap after market head shell, and a mechanic's stethoscope.
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Re: Headshell Wires

Postby mrwood » 19 Jun 2017 04:21

At the risk of seeming thick,I have to ask:How would the test work?
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