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Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby ciccio64 » 20 Apr 2017 07:02

Hi Guys
I use both Stanton and Shure charts with my favorite Shure M75ed t2.
I upgraded the m75 step by step from Ej stylus to the ed stylus type passing by the E type. Every step up is clearly noticeable to me.
Now the next step would be a jico SAS type but it is too expansive for me this moment so I ordered the vivid line type from LP gear
Anyone have experience with it? Is it superior to the good genuine m75ed stylus?
Also how it compare with the jico SAS?(more than double price!)
The advised VTF is 1 1/2- 3 g which is much more than what I use presently for my ED type I am a bit concern about.
Comments please :)
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby Erin1 » 21 Apr 2017 06:36

ciccio64 wrote:The advised VTF is 1 1/2- 3 g which is much more than what I use presently for my ED type I am a bit concern about.
Comments please :)


I'd be concerned too. Thats too much VTF. Who told you that?
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby Tinkaroo » 21 Apr 2017 12:35

I like the M75ED Type 2 very much and have some original stylii for it. It is basically the same as the M91ED except for the plastic mounting.

I usually set mine up for 1.25 gms, but you should follow original Shure specs of 0.75-1.5 gms. Some of the conical type of stylii may have used a higher force, but with the elliptical or hyper-elliptical you should go with 0.75-1.5 gms. 1.5-3 gms is much too high a range.

As far as the SAS goes, I've used them on my M95, V15 Type III and IV cartridges, but that was before the recent prices which don't make it an economical option for the M75. If one looks hard enough then there are sometimes original or other options that work well and sound great at a more economical price.

Please let us know your impressions of the vivid-line stylus once you've gotten it and given it enough time to break in.
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby ciccio64 » 21 Apr 2017 15:22

Erin1 wrote:
ciccio64 wrote:The advised VTF is 1 1/2- 3 g which is much more than what I use presently for my ED type I am a bit concern about.
Comments please :)


I'd be concerned too. Thats too much VTF. Who told you that?

Well i did ask to LP gear, custumer service...
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby DualSpinsMyVinyl » 22 Apr 2017 07:01

I fell heir to an M75ED Type 2 cartridge missing the stylus. I purchased the LP Gear N75HE Vivid Line stylus as a replacement. From the first play it has done nothing but amaze me. I have a JICO SAS on my M97xE which I really like and the LP Gear VL stylus does just as well and sometimes I find it hard to not like the LP Gear VL stylus just a little more. As to the VTF, I run mine at 1.25gms with no problems. Tracks well and no IGD.
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby ciccio64 » 22 Apr 2017 08:28

DualSpinsMyVinyl wrote:I fell heir to an M75ED Type 2 cartridge missing the stylus. I purchased the LP Gear N75HE Vivid Line stylus as a replacement. From the first play it has done nothing but amaze me. I have a JICO SAS on my M97xE which I really like and the LP Gear VL stylus does just as well and sometimes I find it hard to not like the LP Gear VL stylus just a little more. As to the VTF, I run mine at 1.25gms with no problems. Tracks well and no IGD.

Haa!! DualSpinsMyVinyl thanks for posting and thanks to this forum for existing so that people sharing this passion can share experience and info.That is what I was looking for! Glad you had good result with this stylus j hope I shall be happy as you are about this new experience.1.25 g is just about what I run my ed type 2 (US made)right now. I must say that I never can get tired of my M75 really a chart consistently good .I also run a Stanton 681 and I was quite happy with that running a jico stylus (ee model)to the point that I invest consistent money for the genuine EEE type but I did not get the upgrade I was looking for to the point I went back to my M75 ed2...I also tried couple charts from the AT range up to the 440 and although they do sound good they are all to bright for my test .I also listen an ortofon 2Mred on a friend set up ...same problem for me there is no upgrade there for my test may be I am a bit addicted to the "shure sound" so I think unless I my budget situation not improve consistently to buy a superior chart (may be an ortofon 2m bronze or black)I shall stick with my vintage shure and is nice to know that may still be some space for improvement. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby Richard Coxon » 22 Apr 2017 09:18

I purchased a replacement M75 ED 2 sylus from William Thacker on Ebay.It was about 30%more expensive than the previous styli I had bought for the cartridge but is significantly better and more durable.I recall reading somewhere that Thakker source some of their stili from Jico.
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby ciccio64 » 22 Apr 2017 12:48

Richard Coxon wrote:I purchased a replacement M75 ED 2 sylus from William Thacker on Ebay.It was about 30%more expensive than the previous styli I had bought for the cartridge but is significantly better and more durable.I recall reading somewhere that Thakker source some of their stili from Jico.

Yes I can confirm as I used them my self in the past.The "William Thacker" are in fact jico stylus and they are pretty good I believe the one for ED type is an elliptical 0.3X0.7 bonded (equivalent also in sound to the genuine shure EJ. however the genuine type E and ED are superior with ED absolutely the best. (triple price if you found one)
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Re: Shure m75 lp gear vivid line

Postby Tinkaroo » 22 Apr 2017 13:55

I found a Nagaoka stylus for the M75ED Type 2 sold by an Italian retailer which was actually quite good.

I bought a NOS M75ED type 2 cartridge from England a couple of years ago which had a new EDT2 stylus on it. I paid a reasonable price for it. It is pretty hard to beat the original.

I've also bought a couple of repackaged original stylii from VOM when they had them in stock, also at reasonable prices.

It is unfortunate that there are so many gold diggers out there charging inflated prices for some of this stuff since it keeps people from trying it and enjoying it. I like the sound of this cartridge very much so I keep my eyes open for good deals when they come along. I like to play the long game and be patient.
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