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Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Vinylsld2 » 03 Apr 2016 22:15

Any idea about the sound quality, overall clarity and details given by these amps independently of the price they are available for?

If not compared then whoever has the experience with either of these can leave their reviews and opinions.

I did see a previous thread on XPS 1 on vinylengine but din't see any final reviews on this product.

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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby AudioSoul » 07 Apr 2016 15:08

I noticed no one has commented on your thread. So I will, I have never heard either of these phono preamps but I know that at this price level they will sound different from each other. But which is better is a matter of opinion.....
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Vinylsld2 » 07 Apr 2016 17:53

Thanks for commenting AudioS.
Cambridge 651p though is pretty well known in the budget pre-amps under $200 and praised well by most.
Emotiva XPS1 is a new one in the market (not too long ago) and has very few reviews or chat online for its performance. But never heard anything negative about it.
These two pre-amps are said to be better than other known low budgets in the market like NAD PP2, TCC 750, Art Dj or project box for MM.
I am seeking good clarity and separation of musical equipment in lower budget. I asked the official dealer of Emotiva in my city and he said it is very neutral sounding pre-amp with a sales pitch "best in the market for the price".
The same is said about the cambridge 651p.
But Emotiva XPS1 has capacitance controlling options for MC. Hence presumably, is a better choice for MC. I don't use MC for now. Don't even know if my TT is compatible for MC (its Technics SL-D2, direct drive).
Now currently I already have an AVR (yammie rx475v) with Behringer ultra compact preamp. Just looking for a budget upgrade of pre-amp under 200-300.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby derspankster » 07 Apr 2016 18:13

I own and use a 551P which the MM version only. I don't own a MC that requires a MC input. My Denon DL-110 is MC but it's output is high enough to use a regular MM Input.

My first impression of the Cambridge was that it was a bit brighter than what I'd been hearing. It turns out that I like it's sound very much. My AR3a speakers still have the original tweeters and they sound great with the 551P. I am guessing that the 651P would sound similar.

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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Vinylsld2 » 07 Apr 2016 19:34

Yes,there shouldn't be any difference in 651p and 551p except MC option in 651p.
Thats good to know that its very bright.
I am using BS 22 pioneer speakers only. They are small but good enough for small room.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby derspankster » 07 Apr 2016 19:43

Vinylsld2 wrote:Thats good to know that its very bright.

I would not say "very" bright. Just a little brighter.

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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Vinylsld2 » 08 Apr 2016 04:08

derspankster wrote:
Vinylsld2 wrote:Thats good to know that its very bright.

I would not say "very" bright. Just a little brighter.

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Good to know. I have never read anyone saying it sounds bright! Is it able to separate the instruments nicely (highs and mids)? How is the bass and overall lows (specially if I am using bookshelf speaker 80W each)?
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby bauzace50 » 08 Apr 2016 08:25

I use one Emotiva XPS-1 since
January 7, 2014. It substitutes the Phono section of my Parasound Halo P-3 preamp (and one Denon SUT).

The Emotiva has also been compared directly with one Pro-Ject Phono Box SE-II.

The Emotiva XPS-1 is my keeper vis a vis the other two alternatives because it is neutral, noise-free, detailed, ample-staging, and dynamic.

It is a tough act to follow sonically, has good loading settings for MC, is convenient to use, and has a jewel-like look and feel. I consider it a total success and feel lucky it costs surprisingly little, under $150.00!

It has no Subsonic Filter, which can be supplied with two plug-ins from "dB Systems" available for $25. at Acoustic Sounds.

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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Boltman92124 » 05 Jul 2016 17:59

I got the XPS-1 recently to upgrade the built in pre on the Audio Technica 120.

The upgrade is not subtle. Much more dynamic with better drive and lower noise floor. It "boogies". And I did not rip out the built in pre as others have done. Just used the bypass. Very happy. Oh and, it was a good match for the AT Cartridges even though the capacitance was high at 220pf.
AT LP120> Emotiva XPS-1 Gen 2, Denon 103,Goldring Elektra, AT 100e/95se,LP CF3600le. AT HS10/LP Gear Ultimate HS. AT618 Weight/Turntable Toys 3/16" Cork. JRiver 500gb Server> Adcom GDA700. GFA545 Amp. McCormack Micro Line Drive Pre. Mirage M7si. Kimber PBJ, 8VS.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Analogueman » 05 Jul 2016 19:08

Have had the XPS-1 for several years, very pleased with its performance. Never felt the need to change it out.

Review here:

http://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/ampl ... er-review/
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Jimbuy » 06 Jul 2016 22:52

Has anyone compared it with the Schiit Mani?
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Boltman92124 » 14 Jul 2016 00:03

I burned through a bunch of turntables, cartridges and albums back in the 70's and 80's, but I never had vinyl sound like this! Makes me want to start looking at some moving coil carts now.
AT LP120> Emotiva XPS-1 Gen 2, Denon 103,Goldring Elektra, AT 100e/95se,LP CF3600le. AT HS10/LP Gear Ultimate HS. AT618 Weight/Turntable Toys 3/16" Cork. JRiver 500gb Server> Adcom GDA700. GFA545 Amp. McCormack Micro Line Drive Pre. Mirage M7si. Kimber PBJ, 8VS.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Jimbuy » 15 Jul 2016 16:07

Boltman92124 wrote:I burned through a bunch of turntables, cartridges and albums back in the 70's and 80's, but I never had vinyl sound like this! Makes me want to start looking at some moving coil carts now.

2 questions and 1 statement:
1) How do you compare the AT95 and AT100?
2) Have your Stax cans lost any bass yet? Mine are going on 30 years and still sound great; but I've heard it's only a matter of time.
3) Emotiva says that the only differences between the XPS-1 and XPS-1 Gen 2 are cosmetic. Still waiting for my gen 1 to compare with my Mani.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Boltman92124 » 15 Jul 2016 18:36

Jimbuy wrote:
Boltman92124 wrote:I burned through a bunch of turntables, cartridges and albums back in the 70's and 80's, but I never had vinyl sound like this! Makes me want to start looking at some moving coil carts now.

2 questions and 1 statement:
1) How do you compare the AT95 and AT100?
2) Have your Stax cans lost any bass yet? Mine are going on 30 years and still sound great; but I've heard it's only a matter of time.
3) Emotiva says that the only differences between the XPS-1 and XPS-1 Gen 2 are cosmetic. Still waiting for my gen 1 to compare with my Mani.


1.) I used to think the 95e was too low output but it is much better with the higher gain Emotiva. The 100e grabs more detail and is higher output. It's a nice upgrade from the 95e. Although the 95e might be more balanced..the 100e more tipped up in the treble. I hope to put one of the AT150 style needles on it in the future.
2.) My SR5's never had alot of bass to begin with. But they are still amazing sounding. Addictive. I have kept them in mint condition. Put a new cord on them maybe 15 years ago.
3.) Not sure on the generations. I got mine last month so I'm assuming it's a Gen 2.
AT LP120> Emotiva XPS-1 Gen 2, Denon 103,Goldring Elektra, AT 100e/95se,LP CF3600le. AT HS10/LP Gear Ultimate HS. AT618 Weight/Turntable Toys 3/16" Cork. JRiver 500gb Server> Adcom GDA700. GFA545 Amp. McCormack Micro Line Drive Pre. Mirage M7si. Kimber PBJ, 8VS.
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Re: Emotiva XPS 1 vs Cambridge 651p pre-amps

Postby Spicysammich » 17 Jul 2016 02:06

I'm super interested in the Emotiva. I'm running the onboard pre's on my Sansui 2000a which sound good but I bet anything listed in this thread would be a step or two up.

In particular with the XPS-1 is that people describe the sound as fast and somewhat in your face. A dozen jazz and soul records aside, the bulk of my little collection is classic alternative, punk, metal and reggae. I'm not as much concerned about most things as I am about the preamp having that pacing or energy to their sound.

This is a super informative thread so far \:D/
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