Finally! Denon 103R

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Wil
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Finally! Denon 103R

Post by Wil » 03 Feb 2006 17:18

I can see what the fuss is all about :D

Recently upgraded my phono to a Jolida tube phono, and my cart from Audio Technic AT430E to the 103r.

Firstly the denon is much more dynamic and liquid compared to the AT; which seemed alittle harsh and at times even digital. The 103R has huge dynamics!

It's conical needle is AMAZINGLY quiet! Floornoise is even lower than the AT430e!

It's just so smooth and lucid it's wonderful on my setup. Shall listen to it more , but the way it's sounding now...im a happy camper :D

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Post by bauzace50 » 03 Feb 2006 17:43

Wil,
glad for you! For another appreciation of this legendary cartridge, go to Hi Fi News, January 2006, page 64. Ken Kessler chronicles the history of this design, in a fine article covering three full pages! Good luck!

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Post by Wil » 03 Feb 2006 17:44

thanks bauzace...have that issue already! hehe. :wink:

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Post by stefanl » 04 Feb 2006 20:15

I'm sorry to inform you but the Denon 103R has an elliptical stylus and not a conical one.It is the Denon 103 that has the conical/spherical stylus.

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Denon 103 family...

Post by EdAInWestOC » 05 Feb 2006 01:49

stefanl wrote:I'm sorry to inform you but the Denon 103R has an elliptical stylus and not a conical one.It is the Denon 103 that has the conical/spherical stylus.
Well...not exactly. The Denon 103 family has had a lot of members over the years and almost all of them have sported spherical stylii. Notable exceptions were the 103S, 103D and 103M which all had a special elliptical stylus. The 103M also had a boron cantilever and was the lowest output member of the 103 family (0.12 mv).

The 103R has 6N pure copper coils and has the same cantilever/stylus as the stock 103 (AFAIK). This link http://www.cartridgedb.com/docs/denondl103r.pdf will take you to a PDF copy of the 103R's documentation. Unfortunately its in japaneese.

Have A Nice Day,
Ed

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Post by car67 » 05 Feb 2006 04:05

I don't think you can go wrond with the 103R. Mine took about 20hrs to break in before it really opened-up but I guess YMMV. Enjoy. :)


Jack

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Post by stefanl » 05 Feb 2006 06:20

I apologise for the incorrect info about the 103R but I have reported a bad source.I have one on my computer that gives the 103 as having an elliptical! stylus and the 103R as having spherical I thought it was switched incorrectly.The 103 M,Dand S are given as elliptical also? The cartridge database agrees the 103R is spherical.Guess I was wrong.Apologies again.

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Post by EdAInWestOC » 05 Feb 2006 10:45

stefanl wrote:I apologise for the incorrect info about the 103R but I have reported a bad source.I have one on my computer that gives the 103 as having an elliptical! stylus and the 103R as having spherical I thought it was switched incorrectly.The 103 M,Dand S are given as elliptical also? The cartridge database agrees the 103R is spherical.Guess I was wrong.Apologies again.
No problem at all. I run the Cartridge Database and I'm all too familiar with information and misinformation that is abundant via the internet. I frequently have troubles identifying what is valid and what is not. Fortunately the 103R is a current model and there is a source of info from the manufacturer. It becomes much more difficult when the cartridge is an old discontinued model.

Complicating matters there are frequent conflicting specs published from some manufacturers and the reviewers add more fun to the game. An unfortunate side effect from the open information available via the Inet.

Ed

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