Can someone identify this ADC cart?

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Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 20 Jan 2020 01:25

Hi everyone, I have had this for ages just sitting in the cart box no stylus and got curious as to what model it is. DC resistance is 857 ohms and inductance is 590 mH. Body is silver and homes are open.
What is model and best stylus it will take?
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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by audiodk » 20 Jan 2020 02:09

Closed screw holes = a late model QLM cartridge. Any QLM MK III stylus is a match for the inductance/resistance.
QLM 30, 32, 33, 34 or 36 MK III.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 20 Jan 2020 04:47

audiodk wrote:
20 Jan 2020 02:09
Closed screw holes = a late model QLM cartridge. Any QLM MK III stylus is a match for the inductance/resistance.
QLM 30, 32, 33, 34 or 36 MK III.
Screw holes are open.
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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by mamakasou » 20 Jan 2020 12:28

audiodk wrote:
20 Jan 2020 02:09
... Any QLM MK III stylus is a match for the inductance/resistance.
QLM 30, 32, 33, 34 or 36 MK III.
The styli for the two lower-tier of the bunch, QLM30 mkIII and QLM32 mkIII are not compatible.
They have different coil resistance/impedance to the rest ones.
They measure much lower than the rest.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by wolfie62 » 20 Jan 2020 13:30

With 857R/590 mH, you have a silver and green version of a ZLM/XLM/VLM-QLM36 MKIII cartridge body. You can put any of those styli on it and get the same results as with a gold body.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 20 Jan 2020 20:54

wolfie62 wrote:
20 Jan 2020 13:30
With 857R/590 mH, you have a silver and green version of a ZLM/XLM/VLM-QLM36 MKIII cartridge body. You can put any of those styli on it and get the same results as with a gold body.
It actually looks more black, but camera flash shows it more green. How good can they sound, is it worth getting a stylus?
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Post by wolfie62 » 20 Jan 2020 21:02

It's not black. It's a light sage green. Otherwise, the shadows from the flash would be identical to the black plastic. I have seen these green mounts on carts listed on ebay.

Sound as good as a ZLM or XLM, if that's the stylus you mount on it. If the silver finish bothers you, go to an auto supply store and buy some clear gold lacquer that is used to refresh gold trim on cars. Brush it on evenly. Then you'll have a gold body cart, just like the ZLM/XLM/VLM.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 20 Jan 2020 21:13

wolfie62 wrote:
20 Jan 2020 21:02
It's not black. It's a light sage green. Otherwise, the shadows from the flash would be identical to the black plastic. I have seen these green mounts on carts listed on ebay.

Sound as good as a ZLM or XLM, if that's the stylus you mount on it. If the silver finish bothers you, go to an auto supply store and buy some clear gold lacquer that is used to refresh gold trim on cars. Brush it on evenly. Then you'll have a gold body cart, just like the ZLM/XLM/VLM.
Not worried what it looks like. So which stylus do you recommend, LP gear or Jico?
How good are these carts?
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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by wolfie62 » 21 Jan 2020 03:39

Good enough for the best stylus you can find. Unfortunately, the best ones sold out last week. Nude Hyper Elliptical Stylus, tapered cantilever. It’s a ZLM cantilever mounted in a NAD 9200 stylus grip. I bought 2, $50 each. Amazing sound, whether mounted to my NAD body, XLM, VLM, or Integra body. Clear, dynamic, airy, and very spacious sound, with awesome detail, and effortless sound you’ll never get tired of.

I’ve never tried a Jico. The LPG styli are quite good.

With the right stylus, you’ll immediately understand why so many like the XLM/ZLM and Integras.
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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 21 Jan 2020 06:56

wolfie62 wrote:
21 Jan 2020 03:39
Good enough for the best stylus you can find. Unfortunately, the best ones sold out last week. Nude Hyper Elliptical Stylus, tapered cantilever. It’s a ZLM cantilever mounted in a NAD 9200 stylus grip. I bought 2, $50 each. Amazing sound, whether mounted to my NAD body, XLM, VLM, or Integra body. Clear, dynamic, airy, and very spacious sound, with awesome detail, and effortless sound you’ll never get tired of.

I’ve never tried a Jico. The LPG styli are quite good.

With the right stylus, you’ll immediately understand why so many like the XLM/ZLM and Integras.

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Thanks, I will search down the best stylus I can.
Cheers
Chris

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by cafe latte » 21 Jan 2020 08:44

wolfie62 wrote:
21 Jan 2020 03:39
Good enough for the best stylus you can find. Unfortunately, the best ones sold out last week. Nude Hyper Elliptical Stylus, tapered cantilever. It’s a ZLM cantilever mounted in a NAD 9200 stylus grip. I bought 2, $50 each. Amazing sound, whether mounted to my NAD body, XLM, VLM, or Integra body. Clear, dynamic, airy, and very spacious sound, with awesome detail, and effortless sound you’ll never get tired of.

I’ve never tried a Jico. The LPG styli are quite good.

With the right stylus, you’ll immediately understand why so many like the XLM/ZLM and Integras.

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How about ADC RS IV any good and will it fit?
Chris

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by wolfie62 » 21 Jan 2020 14:01

Only way to know is to measure the coils. BSR/ADC played the badge name to the hilt; selling identical product under different names. If you get 750/800 ohms, you can put top performing styli on the body.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by BMRR » 21 Jan 2020 14:56

Just be sure to avoid Swiss-made ADC styli at all costs. wolfie will back me up on this. It's not just that they sound bad; they barely even function.

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Re: Can someone identify this ADC cart?

Post by wolfie62 » 21 Jan 2020 15:29

BMRR wrote:
21 Jan 2020 14:56
Just be sure to avoid Swiss-made ADC styli at all costs. wolfie will back me up on this. It's not just that they sound bad; they barely even function.
Very true!! Not worth the effort or money. Magnet-on-a-stick cantilevers! Sound and perform awful!

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