Audio-Technica and Signet

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 17 Oct 2019 23:11

AT160ML - would be nice to have stylus as well... 150MLx could be good...
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I guess I like shiny metals.... 8)
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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by billshurv » 17 Oct 2019 23:12

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=90612

info on the 120Ea

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 17 Oct 2019 23:18

Ah, thanks Bill :). "It belongs to a special line of AT120 family members, the AT120Ea/130Ea/140Ea/150Ea, which afaik wasn't offered in Europe or the US. Unlike most other AT120/102P family models all the AT1x0Ea bodies feature the lower inductance generator version with 350 instead of 490 mH". Thanks to Manfred/lini :).

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 17 Oct 2019 23:26

The 160 is 490mH, and came around 1982? I'm sort of wondering about how they evolved over time to the 150Mlx...

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by chiz » 17 Oct 2019 23:59

dagfinn wrote:
17 Oct 2019 22:53
Here is one I am expecting, an AT120Ea. Don't really know much about the version, but I believe it's 350mh generator. For Japanese market?

Is it plastic or metal mounting cap?

Nor sure how to place it or group it in the history/family, or which other models to compare it to...
The Ea series was introduced in 1983.
Have a look here to see a selected history of AT cartridges:
https://www.audio-technica.co.jp/cartri ... 0_all.html

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by chiz » 18 Oct 2019 00:03

dagfinn wrote:
17 Oct 2019 23:26
The 160 is 490mH, and came around 1982? I'm sort of wondering about how they evolved over time to the 150Mlx...
The 150MLX was introduced in 1997.
Perhaps it was a replacement for the 160ML when they stopped using beryllium? Just a guess.

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by 2002afan » 18 Oct 2019 02:34

dagfinn wrote:
17 Oct 2019 23:11
AT160ML - would be nice to have stylus as well... 150MLx could be good...
AT160ML4.jpg
I guess I like shiny metals.... 8)
dagfinn, I was thinking the same thing. :P Nice!! =D>
I'm liking this thread too. :)
I'm getting ready to put on some "Red Clay" right now. :mrgreen:
Cheers,
WillO

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by 2002afan » 18 Oct 2019 02:39

chiz wrote:
17 Oct 2019 19:54
2002afan wrote:
17 Oct 2019 12:23
chiz, Nice look with a nice sound surely. =D> I used a light coat of clear "Gorilla Glue" when one of my Shure cartridges separated. :( If possible, remove all existing glue first and re glue the same area. I used a damp (to keep the cotton tight) Q-Tip to apply a thin swipe and not enough to ooze out. Let dry upright for 24 hours. Place something to apply pressure while drying if you can. Good luck.
Cheers,
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WillO,
Many thanks for the suggestion and detailed method description.
:D
Most welcome. :(
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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by 2002afan » 18 Oct 2019 02:56

chiz wrote:
17 Oct 2019 23:59
dagfinn wrote:
17 Oct 2019 22:53
Here is one I am expecting, an AT120Ea. Don't really know much about the version, but I believe it's 350mh generator. For Japanese market?

Is it plastic or metal mounting cap?

Nor sure how to place it or group it in the history/family, or which other models to compare it to...
The Ea series was introduced in 1983.
Have a look here to see a selected history of AT cartridges:
https://www.audio-technica.co.jp/cartri ... 0_all.html
Nice History information Chiz. 8) Puts DENON's site to shame. :lol: It would be nice if Signet had a just a little more info out there too. :roll:
Cheers,
WillO

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 18 Oct 2019 08:56

chiz wrote:
17 Oct 2019 23:59
The Ea series was introduced in 1983.
Have a look here to see a selected history of AT cartridges:
https://www.audio-technica.co.jp/cartri ... 0_all.html
Yep, very nice timeline. The 160ML came 1982, as "top of the line", with ml/beryllium. The 150Ea came 1983, with different spec from the 160ML, and I believe with the 120Ea has the same specs as 150Ea (except mounting plate?). The 150Mlx is 1997, and since then it's the 500/700 series, with 760 as top of the line in price. I don't hear much about it, and the current quality of the 500-series is very high. A used 700 generator is interesting in time, but they are all the same, so...
According to FedEx, Bill's 150Mlx & AT22is arriving today, (we need a whoo-hoo smily ;)), so the plot thickens... :lol:
Rainy days of fall becomes golden days of music 8) . I'm starting to feel a little like Leno with my little "garage"... :D
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Last expected , MR5.0E, on its way from US. Generation before AM-series, with identical specs.
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With stylus, for once. Which will be archived for later use. This plastic I don't care too much for. A TKEa series generator would be fitting in this "garage", but I haven't found the right price yet. Not sure if the golden color of the TK7Ea is enough to cash out extra?

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by billshurv » 18 Oct 2019 09:10

My view is that you need one plastic and one metal body that take the same stylii and you are sorted. Unless of course a 180ML with the ceramic mount lands in your hands for little money. The chances of this are similar to the Norweigan airforce changing to pigs.

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by chiz » 18 Oct 2019 09:18

2002afan wrote:
18 Oct 2019 02:56
Puts DENON's site to shame. :lol:
I don't know, I think the Denon Museum compares pretty well:
https://www.denon.jp/jp/museum/index.html

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 18 Oct 2019 09:29

billshurv wrote:
18 Oct 2019 09:10
My view is that you need one plastic and one metal body that take the same stylii and you are sorted.
So far I only have one of each, and can't disagree with you - but I also agree - you need one of each :). Edit: I feel I need more. But it's good advice for those without special needs.
billshurv wrote:
18 Oct 2019 09:10
Unless of course a 180ML with the ceramic mount lands in your hands for little money. The chances of this are similar to the Norweigan airforce changing to pigs.
:lol:
"180ML with the ceramic mount"? With same stylus fitting?

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by dagfinn » 18 Oct 2019 09:50

I suppose the Vivid line from LP gear is Namiki? https://www.lpgear.com/product/ATN152LP.html

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Re: Audio-Technica and Signet

Post by billshurv » 18 Oct 2019 10:13

https://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_r ... l=AT-ML180

A think of beauty, but last one I saw for sale they wanted €1000 for and that was with around 300 hours on the stylus

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