Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

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Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 17 Sep 2019 21:36

Looking to upgrade Empire 888 on my Lenco L70 (original tonearm) with something more refined.

Has anyone tried Benz MC20E2 high-output MC cartridge on that Lenco arm? It's a medium-compliance cartridge according to the specs. It is also an older MC cartridge from what I have read...

I do have MM/MC phono stage, so I'm not really limited to MC-HO carts, but I would like to stay on the cheaper side (~$150 USD). Denon DL-110 prices went through the roof, and I already have original DL-103 on my Denon table, so want something a little different on Lenco.

I think this is the correct link for the cartridge:
https://www.lpgear.com/product/BENZMC20E2H.html

Thank you!

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Alec124c41 » 18 Sep 2019 03:33

This is an amazingly good cartridge IMO. You might have to add some mass to the headshell, to get the best out of it.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 18 Sep 2019 03:40

Hi Alec, thank you for responding. The Lenco headshell is already massive. You think I'd have to weight load it even more?

The Benz cart is for sale locally, so if it's a good match, and hopefully better match than DL-103, I'll go and make an offer :)

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Alec124c41 » 18 Sep 2019 10:36

Right - the L-70, not the L-75.
Go for it.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 20 Sep 2019 03:31

Would this be a better or worse cartridge for Lenco L70 arm than Denon DL-110?

Denon seems to have even lower compliance than Benz, so it should compliment the heavy arm better? Thank you again.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Alec124c41 » 20 Sep 2019 04:21

I think they are not that different in compliance.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 20 Sep 2019 12:03

I basically have a choice between these two carts available for sale at the same price today.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Alec124c41 » 20 Sep 2019 14:45

Both are good.
The DL-110 I refer to as the party girl. Good times.
The Benz might a bit more refined. It is capable of rendering an acoustic guitar that you feel you could touch.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 20 Sep 2019 21:14

Alec, I really appreciate your input, thank you! For some reason, already having DL-103 on another table, I'm leaning towards Benz at this time. I like your comment regarding the guitar - hopefully it reproduces vocals as good as acoustic guitar.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Collux » 20 Sep 2019 22:07

Currently indicated on the LP Gear website:

BENZ MICRO MC-20E2/H MC 20E2/H MC20E2/H HIGH OUTPUT MC PHONO CARTRIDGE
- Discontinued and unavailable. For alternative replacements, refer...........

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 20 Sep 2019 22:11

Collux wrote:
20 Sep 2019 22:07
Currently indicated on the LP Gear website:

BENZ MICRO MC-20E2/H MC 20E2/H MC20E2/H HIGH OUTPUT MC PHONO CARTRIDGE
- Discontinued and unavailable. For alternative replacements, refer...........
I'm buying a used cartridge

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by Collux » 20 Sep 2019 23:06

viperz wrote:
20 Sep 2019 22:11
I'm buying a used cartridge
I would certainly inspect the diamond or get it inspected.
- unless there is some 'known' history you can trust.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by raphaelmabo » 21 Sep 2019 17:31

The Benz is quite light, I think it originally came with a 3g spacer/weight to add extra mass. It’s a “lowish” medium compliance of 10, so on the border between low and medium. Likes medium to high mass tonearms.

It’s still available, as the LP Gear Bin 215 and the 323 with a finer stylus. LP Gear took over the design. Bin 215 sells for 249 USD. It’s based upon the classic and classy Excel MC100.

In the Benz lineup, it was replaced years ago by the MC Silver/Gold, but this is a different cartridge.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

Post by viperz » 21 Sep 2019 17:33

Great information, thank you. I made an offer for Benz, will see how it goes.

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Re: Benz MC20E2-H cartridge on Lenco L70?

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