AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

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Stoneshead
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AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Stoneshead » 16 Sep 2019 22:22

I’m in the market for my first MC cartridge. On my radar are the AT Art9 or one of the new AT OC9X series cartridges (ML, shibata, or special line contact). Lots of praise online for the Art9 but not much info on the OC9X except one pro review (very positive) and some discussion on Audiogon from one early adopter of the AT OC9X SLC. The main attractions of the new OC9X is lower cost compared to the Art9 and threaded holes for mounting. I currently use the Ortofon 2M Black on a VPI Scout running into the tubed Tavish Design Vintage preamp. I like my sound but just want to find out what the MC sound is all about. Any advice from the group?

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Mr Pig » 16 Sep 2019 23:00

I've not owned one of the new carts but I've had an OC9 MKI, OC9 MKII and a Black. They sound different but in my opinion, the Black is just as good as the OC9 and better in some ways. Put it this way. I sold the Black but I sold the OC9 first!

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by BMRR » 17 Sep 2019 19:15

The new OC9s are slightly lower compliance than the old OC9s, which makes the new ones perform better on medium to medium-high mass tonearms. I've also heard that the new OC9s have a slightly warmer sound than the old ones.

If I were to choose one of the new OC9s I would choose the ML because the MicroLine diamond lasts longer than the others and is the best tracker of the bunch.

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Mr Pig » 17 Sep 2019 20:08

BMRR wrote:
17 Sep 2019 19:15
I've also heard that the new OC9s have a slightly warmer sound than the old ones.
That would not be difficult!

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by wine man » 18 Sep 2019 13:40

I've had the ART 9 for over a year now which is a stunning cartridge. It sells for circa £900-£950 in the UK, from my time in the trade I would suggest you would have to spend at least double that to outperform it. It does need a very decent deck & arm plus a good phono stage to give it every chance but the results are very impressive.

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Collux » 18 Sep 2019 21:48

For an inexpensive entry to MCs, LP Gear's BIN series (HOMC) may be of interest?
https://www.lpgear.com/product/BIN215.html
https://www.lpgear.com/product/BIN323.html

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I had the OC9 Mk2

Post by richardr42 » 19 Sep 2019 21:28

One of the least favorite carts I have owned. Always trying to cure the brightness which made it very unmusical and dry sounding. Ortofon Rondo Blue replaced it and was great. I would bet that you have to get a better MC than an OC9 type to beat a very good Ortofon MM like the Black. I know nothing of the Art9.
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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by rewfew » 19 Sep 2019 23:13

Haven't listen to it for awhile, I have an OC9 II. I haven't had the excessive brightness people level at Audio Technica cartridges. I think they're nice cartridges, but not my favorite. I have two Stanton MM carts. A 890le and 981hz I like the best. I don't get the mystique behind LOMC cartridges. I don't think they're worth the fuss, or money.

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Stoneshead » 24 Sep 2019 14:10

Thanks to all for advice and replies. I’m still evaluating my options and waiting another promised pro review of the AT OC9XML to help in my choice. I must admit that listening to some YouTube videos of the OC9II and III the sound seems a bit bright for my tastes. I have heard the Dynavector 20X2H on a friend’s system and it has a warmer sound so I’m considering that one (or the low output version) as a pretty safe choice. I’m still considering the AT Art9 as well and possibly the Hana ML so I guess the top of my budget is about $1200. I’m not in a big hurry so I’m just letting the pro and user reviews develop. I will report back when I make a choice. Thanks again to the group.

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by BMRR » 24 Sep 2019 15:35

Another cartridge you might consider is the Clearaudio Concept MC. It gets great reviews and is within your budget range:

https://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio ... -Cartridge

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Re: AT Art9 v ATOC9X?

Post by Stoneshead » 11 Oct 2019 03:22

Just bought the Hana MH and set it up last night. Have listened to about a dozen LP sides so far and I am very pleased with the detail, warmth, and soundstage width and depth. It is as I hoped a big step above the 2M Black in its detail and reduction in surface noise. I chose the high output version to be able to use the all tube MM output of my Tavish Design Vintage phono stage. I understand that the sound should improve after some hours but so far I couldn’t be happier with my choice.

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