Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

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Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

Post by PeanutsWhitefoot » 11 Sep 2019 18:26

Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me. It has a Stanton sticker on one side but no numbers and a small white dot in the front. I'm a complete novice when it comes to phonographs. I took this off of an old Numark turntable from the mid seventies that I replaced with a Shure M97xe. Now I have aquired a Technics SL QD 35 and I'm wondering if this could work with it. If it could what sylus would you suggest.
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Post by nat » 11 Sep 2019 23:57

It looks like most other Stanton cartridges, which is probably why you asked. They look alike because most of them are relatively similar - inductance varies with some models, and that affects frequency response, but measuring inductance isn't quite as easy as measuring resistance. So it would be nice if someone recognized it. My memory is that the LZS series were black, but they were fairly rare (and excellent), and there may have been other black models. I suspect that the low output LZS would have significantly different inductance and resistance than regular output models

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Post by Collux » 12 Sep 2019 01:09

Yes, measuring resistance and inductance of the cart is a very good starting point to identification.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/mbrs/recor ... atalog.pdf

Pickering (who were under the same umbrella as Stanton) have some narrow body cart versions.
- I'm not sure that is the case with Stanton?
A dimensional measurement of the cart width will confirm. But it looks standard.

Whatever, it's likely to be from one of the following Stanton series:
500
600
680/681
881
980/981 (rarer carts)

This cart has obviously lost its identification but still had the Stanton label.
Maybe an image search will turn up an equivalent with identification?

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Post by KentT » 12 Sep 2019 03:03

Not a 500 or 600. Being a black body, I think it looks like a later 680 of some kind (Moving Iron). Has the newer 20 degree VTA/SRA instead of the original 15 degree version.

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Post by Collux » 12 Sep 2019 03:25

KentT wrote:
12 Sep 2019 03:03
Being a black body, I think it looks like a later 680 of some kind (Moving Iron).
Seems very possible.

If the TT model is known, and the cart was supplied OEM: then manuals may be able to confirm the actual cart.
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/numark.shtml

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Post by PeanutsWhitefoot » 12 Sep 2019 03:28

Thanks for your responses. The deck it came off of was a 1986 Numark TT2400. It was from a radio station that went fully digital. At some point I'll need to decide if I want to put it back on that turntable or stick with the Shure M97ex I replaced it with. Do all the Stanton carts you listed take the same type of stylus? Is the only difference better quality between the brands but all will have the same fit.

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Post by Collux » 12 Sep 2019 03:51

Looks a nice TT.
- unfortunately literature available for the TT2400 does not indicate any cartridge brand.

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Post by wolfie62 » 12 Sep 2019 14:30

I wouldn't toss that Stanton until I knew which cart it was. Go to Walmart and get an inexpensive digital volt-ohmmeter. Get a reading of the coil resistance. Post it here. There are folks here who can match your readings with known specifications. That's the best way to "fingerprint" that unknown cartridge. You could have on your hands a very nice Stanton cart, in need of a stylus.

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Post by BMRR » 12 Sep 2019 17:10

I agree, it's probably a member of the 680 series but you'd need to test the resistance to be sure. The 680EL-II was produced in black for a while and would've been fairly common in a radio station.

However, I can tell you right now that it will not work with your Technics SL-QD35. That turntable requires a P-Mount cartridge. This is a standard mount cartridge, not a P-Mount.

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Post by PeanutsWhitefoot » 12 Sep 2019 23:33

Thanks for that reply about this not being a "p" mount cart. I just ordered a Vivid replacement needle for the Technics. I'm going to test this tomorrow and I'll post the numbers. Once I figure out what cart it is I'll be able to decide what stylus to buy.

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Post by Collux » 13 Sep 2019 02:26

Why not buy an inexpensive and give it a try?
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Re: Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

Post by PeanutsWhitefoot » 13 Sep 2019 13:46

I set the ohm meter to read up to 10,000 ohms.
white + blue
1,241 ohms
red + green
1,239 ohms

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Re: Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

Post by BMRR » 13 Sep 2019 14:28

That makes it a member of the 680 series. This means you can use any stylus intended for the Stanton 680, 681, or Pickering XV-15.

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Re: Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

Post by wolfie62 » 13 Sep 2019 14:48

Got yourself a great Stanton cart!

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Re: Can someone identify this Stanton cartrige for me.

Post by Collux » 13 Sep 2019 17:07

The following is LP Gear's elliptical offering for a 681
https://www.lpgear.com/product/STAD0681.html

For 'advanced' styli profiles, they also offer :
ViVid Line (hyper elliptical)
Shibata

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