clearaudio concept stylus

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clearaudio concept stylus

Post by punio75 » 07 Jul 2019 18:08

A very basic question here for a complete novice!

I've just taken on my brothers clearaudio concept turntable.
I was excited but it has no stylus (snapped off? - he doesn't know!)

Anyway, what are my options?

Any help appreciated.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by JoeE SP9 » 07 Jul 2019 18:58

It depends on what cartridge is on it. Concepts come with either a MM cart or a MC cart. If yours has a MC cart only a re-tipper can help. If it has a MM cartridge you can buy a replacement stylus assembly.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by punio75 » 07 Jul 2019 22:06

Thanks for the reply.

Pretty sure its a MM cartridge.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by banerjba » 08 Jul 2019 02:29

The Concept mm is based on an AT95e. The cartridge could be swapped out although I would adjust the VTF, VTA and antiskating. This is a very high quality deck. Buy a new cartridge and enjoy.

Or just buy a new Concept MM. Clearaudio cartridges are very good sounding.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by punio75 » 08 Jul 2019 08:31

So I have to buy a new cartridge? Gulp!! :(
They look pretty expensive!
https://premiumsound.co.uk/product/turn ... gL8QfD_BwE


How easy it it to fit?

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by markcass » 08 Jul 2019 09:48

As these are fixed-stylus MMs (though I think an AT stylus can be fitted with a little 'surgery'), you should be able to part-exchange yours to obtain a discount - just like an MC.

These are probably no more difficult to fit than other cartridges with threaded mounting holes (i.e. no fiddling with nuts underneath), though the cantilever looks a bit exposed, so a little care is needed.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by jotarama » 08 Jul 2019 09:50

If yours is the MM Clearaudio Concepto, read this

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... 19&t=71926

And take a look here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sJJvrCfKFdg

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by ]eep » 12 Jul 2019 06:41

A Clearaudio MM cart uses a AT95XX stylus. So basically it could cost you 30-100 for an elliptical or better VL stylus. But be warned... It's not for beginners or faint at heart. You need to cut off the plastic sides. I've done it twice (E and VL) and twice the cantilever ended up in the carpet. And I'm not a clutz.

I did fix both and both are working great but I used some, erm, unorthodox method. (spoiler: no duct tape). I put a AT95E in an ebony body with the VL stylus. A bit of work but it sounds great. Not in my Clearaudio Performance Btw. but in a Lenco L78.

Once you cut off the excess plastic it's easy to swap out the stylus. Pulling the old one out is best done with some small pliers. Putting the new one in is easy. I can do it with 2 fingers.

If you dont want to risk it, it's easier to simply get the new AT VM95xx since the price is mostly made up by the price of the stylus. The ...C is good, the ...EB is like the old AT95E, then there's the nude EN and the best value is the ML.

The only (real, credible) advantage of the wood body CA is better damping. I don't buy the 'carefully matching' part. AT has really high standards in QC. So the VM95ML will be the better cartridge. But you will have some steep learning curve getting it properly aligned.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by ]eep » 14 Jul 2019 20:00

I think a few pictures might inspire
https://www.audiokarma.net/forums/index ... g.1562450/
This is my non-Clearaudio cartridge. All in all close to €200 with HE stylus.
https://www.audiokarma.net/forums/index ... g.1562457/
This is the range I purchased. I didnt have the ebony body then. So I did the HE first. With a hobby knife. I've got nerves of steel but this was not, erm, the best choice...it ended up in the carpet. No harm done as you can see in the 1st photo.
https://www.audiokarma.net/forums/index ... g.1562453/
This is the normal AT95E, used the micro tool disc, that went better. But I just read nail clippers are better.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by jotarama » 14 Jul 2019 23:16

Yes, nail clippers are a good choice.

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Re: clearaudio concept stylus

Post by banerjba » 20 Jul 2019 16:37

My AT 440 Mla replaced my Concept MM on my Concept table about 3 years ago. Hard to believe I have had this table for 7 years. Still feels and looks like new.

Anyway the 440 has a tonne of hours on it and still sounds good but I decided to swap it out for a new AT95e (old body style which I had new from a few years ago). It actually sounds really good. Not as detailed as the 440 or Concept mm but perfect balance.

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