Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

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Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by JazzFogie » 26 Jun 2019 09:27

Hi all,
I was given a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III and two Japanese moving magnet cartridges recently. I would like to install one of them to make a working turntable as a gift for someone. The SP25 originally had a Sonotone 9TAHC, but unfortunately the rubber piece the stylus rests on was broken.

I found a wrecked modern Crosley tt and recycled the arm tube leads onto the Garrard C2 cartridge slide.

I would appreciate some help identifying these two carts. I think the one with a white stylus body is an Audio Technica, but I can't work out if it's an AT-91 or an AT-3600?

The other one with the red stylus, I have no idea. Made in Japan??

Both need new styli, as does my other option, an ADC K-8 (blue).

I would also appreciate any opinions on which would be the best fit for the Garrard.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by themisto462 » 26 Jun 2019 10:04

JazzFogie wrote:
26 Jun 2019 09:27
The other one with the red stylus, I have no idea. Made in Japan??
That should be an audio-technica AT750 (aka CEC PC-1, Sanyo MG-41D or Yamaha CG-6800 for example).

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by KentT » 27 Jun 2019 00:36

Install the AT 3600 from your Crosley on the Garrard. That cartridge tracks at 2.5 grams fine, your Garrard tonearm is fine with it. And styli easily available.

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by ]eep » 28 Jun 2019 00:57

I have a AT3600 on a Garrard SP25 I and that works fine. Much better than the turnover ceramic. The cost can't be holding you back. A complete
3600 cartridge from China is cheaper than any replacement stylus you can find.

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by vanakaru » 28 Jun 2019 08:37

Go for AT3600.
All SP25 III I had came with Shure M75. Most likely these were sold pre installed. So anything similar will do.

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by markcass » 28 Jun 2019 11:03

vanakaru wrote:
28 Jun 2019 08:37
Go for AT3600.
All SP25 III I had came with Shure M75. Most likely these were sold pre installed. So anything similar will do.
Mine came with a Goldring G850, though I actually specified this IIRC (the alternative at the time was the G800). Let's put it this way: I'd recommend the AT3600!

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by Collux » 28 Jun 2019 22:54

And the AT3600 can be economically upgraded to an elliptical.
https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGATN3600DLXSE.html

There is even a ViVid Line stylus also available from LPGear should you so desire.

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by KentT » 29 Jun 2019 13:12

Elliptical not recommended on this tonearm. Stick to the AT 3600L here. 2.5 grams tracking force is reasonable for this mechanism and the Garrard tonearm. Don't ask it to track lighter.

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by JazzFogie » 30 Jun 2019 14:40

Thank you for the keen responses!
Okay the AT-3600L it will be. I will go with the cheapest stylus I can find.

Meanwhile I've just today scored a 1981 Hitachi HT-20S belt-drive in working condition from a relative with an Ortofon FF15EO MkII. The FF15 stylus is worn out, however it appears you can still get genuine Ortofon elliptical styli.

The FF15EO MkII's tracking angle is 15 degrees. I already use the OM1s conicals and OM10 ellipticals which have a 20 degree tracking angle, so this earlier cart may be an improvement for my 1950's-'60's classical stereo LP's?

I also note that the Audio Technica AT750 also seems quite decent (at least from it's specs) so I will try and get a stylus for that too...

Has anyone compared the sound of the FF15 to the AT750?
Cheers,
Peter

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Re: Which cart for a Garrard SP-25 Mk.III?

Post by JazzFogie » 02 Jul 2019 04:36

Further checking shows that the Ortofon FF15EO MkII's tracking angle was 15 degrees. With the current NF 15 XE MKII Ortofon replacement stylus it's now 20 degrees just like the OM...

I will get a FF15EO MkII as it will be interesting to see what the moving iron sound is like compared to the moving magnet OM series. From what I read many people seem to prefer the FF carts.

Peter

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