Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

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Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by empireboy » 19 Jun 2019 02:44

As part of the M44/M55 cart body family, how does the elliptical N44-E stylus rank from a performance standpoint?

I think the N44-E was introduced around 1967 as an addition to the M44 lineup to provide higher performance over the existing conical N44-7.

Also, how good are the Jico N44-E styli compared to the original Shure styli?

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by Collux » 19 Jun 2019 03:41

Details of the M44E & M55E are in the downloadable catalogue found here:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/shu ... ucts.shtml

Also regarding the specific carts refer:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/shure/m44.shtml
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/shure/m55.shtml

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by BMRR » 19 Jun 2019 13:49

empireboy wrote:
19 Jun 2019 02:44
Also, how good are the Jico N44-E styli compared to the original Shure styli?
Slightly better than the original. With JICO's N44E you get a .3x.7 mil elliptical diamond, rather than Shure's .4x.7 mil.

Conversely, Shure's N55E isn't quite as good as the original: .3x.7 mil for the JICO vs. .2x.7 mil for the Shure.

Tracking force is the difference between JICO's N44E and N55E styli. The N55E tracks lighter than the N44E, but otherwise they're the same (aside from color).

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by empireboy » 19 Jun 2019 15:35

Are the Jico N44-E and Jico N55-E output voltages identical?

With the original Shure OEM styli, the N44-E was about 9.5mV and the N55-E about 6.2 mV.

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by empireboy » 19 Jun 2019 15:38

If the Jico N44-E has a smaller profile than the original OEM styli, is it still safe for the Jico to track as high as 4 grams per the original Shure specifications?

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by BMRR » 19 Jun 2019 16:25

empireboy wrote:
19 Jun 2019 15:35
Are the Jico N44-E and Jico N55-E output voltages identical?
That's a great question. I'm not sure whether JICO uses a bigger magnet in their N44E (like Shure did) or if they use the same size magnet for all of their N44/N55 styli.
empireboy wrote:
19 Jun 2019 15:38
If the Jico N44-E has a smaller profile than the original OEM styli, is it still safe for the Jico to track as high as 4 grams per the original Shure specifications?
"Safe" is for you to decide. :) Personally I wouldn't track any elliptical higher than 3g, even if it was a .4x.7. I once tried a .4x.7mil elliptical at 3.5g and it carved new grooves into a styrene 45, whereas a spherical at 3.5g did not.

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Re: Shure M44-E: thoughts on this cartridge?

Post by mamakasou » 19 Jun 2019 22:24

BMRR wrote:
19 Jun 2019 16:25
Personally I wouldn't track any elliptical higher than 3g, even if it was a .4x.7. I once tried a .4x.7mil elliptical at 3.5g and it carved new grooves into a styrene 45, whereas a spherical at 3.5g did not.
If you are using a new (NOS) N44E at the recommended VTf you are safe in my opinion.
However, any elliptical above 3 grams needs to be in great shape and aligned correctly.
Orelse, as BMRR said, it will carve new grooves!

Btw, I like all options for the M44 series.
Has a unique tone and boldness.
Not for everyone but a special cartridge for sure.

The N44E in particular is pretty 'focused' and accurate, similar to the N44G.
Still sounds bold and full of character with a high-output, like its brother the N44-7.

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