Ortofon OM5 series

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Ortofon OM5 series

Post by chiz » 19 Jun 2019 00:33

Interesting that they have brought back the Super OM and also introduced an OM5S model which unless I've missed something appears to have identical specs to the OM1S they launched a while back?

https://www.ortofon.com/media/150551/om ... tsheet.pdf

Prices:
€50 - OM1S
€60 - OM5S
€80 - OM5E
€95 - Super OM5E

https://www.ortofon.com/hifi/products/hifi-cartridges

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by donovan » 20 Jun 2019 01:36

I don't see the Super OM10 listed. I bought one last year and enjoy it very much.
Is Ortofon not selling OM10,20,30,40 stylus either?

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by chiz » 20 Jun 2019 02:42

They are still listing the 10/20/30/40 styli (and others) but the ones I mentioned are the only models currently listed as complete cartridges in this range.

https://www.ortofon.com/hifi/products/replacement-styli

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by ]eep » 20 Jun 2019 03:38

I really fail to see the appeal of this range of cartridges. It's the first cartridge I bought, mounted on a Dual 505-2. It's the first thing I upgraded and the little Dual became so much more than a first entry. I modified the platter and subplatter with lead, made a heavy MDF base (new material at the time) and mounted a Yamaha HO-MC (MC21?) that was such a day and night difference! I never looked back and disliked Ortofon ever since. And don't ever buy into the nonsense that your 'table can't support a better cartridge! It can. And not just by swapping the stylus.

Surely, a person can get biased. Once bitten twice shy etc. Things you remember aren't necessarily true. Right? Well I just restored an old Thorens TD115 to its former 'glory' (I bought a Dual and not a Thorens for a reason back then). Well, glory might be for others. I think it's an ugly demanding primadonna that can't sing and has a mind of her own. But I digress. It came with an OM-20 since it has a light arm. And that's a 'good' combination, right? Wrong! It took all the joy out of playing music. It sounds just like a wet cracker. Tastes like it, looks like it and smells like it. Doey, pasty and stale.

As a sharp contrast I bought one of these ridiculously cheap Chinese made AT3600L and didn't really expect that much (but it's a good replacement cart for refurbished TT's)... and I really, really love it. It's fun, ballsy, musical and spacious. So I ordered some better styli. It can only get better.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by billshurv » 20 Jun 2019 09:22

I think the OM and super OM cartridges are superb. If loaded correctly they are neutral and accurate. Of course preference may not be for that, which is fine. Still being able to get the super generator is great news.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by Pauw » 20 Jun 2019 11:12

The Ortofon OM series are indeed excellent....they are clear and detailed, extended and balanced but, this is only seen if the are correctly loaded and set up. I believe that many who are not so impressed may not have set them up correctly.
It is excellent that the super version is being made available again ...however, if you are lucky and get a good standard version, you still have an excellent performer. :)

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by donovan » 20 Jun 2019 12:10

I have both the OMP P-Mount Version and the Super OM bodies and agree they are outstanding cartridges WHEN matched properly with right table/arm/VTA and loading.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by Boltman92124 » 20 Jun 2019 16:53

I've only tried the budget Omega and OM10. I actually prefer the little Omega, which still comes with an elliptical .3 x .7 for $37! It has a beefier sound than the OM10 and it's a good tracker. The Ortofon SH-4 headshell is a nice combo. I don't like it as much as the CF3600le though.

https://www.ortofon.com/omega-p-705

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by raphaelmabo » 20 Jun 2019 17:52

I was not a fan of the OM5, it did the job but it was nothing special. I liked the OM20 much better. But it was a bit too dry sounding for me, I've moved on to other cartridges. But if one is seeking a neutral sound with good stereo perspective and nice tonal balance, and a bit laidback character, then the OM is a fine choice.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by Alec124c41 » 21 Jun 2019 14:35

Please not that the OM cartridges were all the same, with the Super cartridges having, i believe, a split magnet core.
The styluses were not the same, ranging from the 3, 5, 10, 20 30, and 40, with 7 and 14 thrown in for the P-mounts.
There were also the Pro-S DJ cartridges with heavier-tracking styluses. Also the 78 stylus for the OM line.
It is not reasonable to judge the entire OM line on the basis of a bottom-line stylus. An OM 5E and an OM 30 are worlds apart.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by ]eep » 22 Jun 2019 01:39

Proper setup and loading doesn't do anything to improve a bad or mediocre cartridge. Loading affects only high frequency resonance.

Improper setup can take the shine off a great cartridge, or ruin its performance. Or worse; the record. Even more so with an advanced stylus! But even set up incorrectly or not amplified right the qualities of a great cartridge will reveal itself in some way or another. I even had some defective cartridges that had crooked (karat 17D2) or missing stylus (decca) and still showed their potential. I've used several OM types. They showed none. Oh, well, they track well.

The best painting young Adolf Schickelgruber ever made is still rubbish compared to Da Vinci's worst technical scetch. The former thought he was a great artist, the latter wàs.

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by billshurv » 22 Jun 2019 10:14

We get it. You don't like the OM series. But that does not make it 'mediocre'

And congratulations for the fastest proof of Godwin I have ever seen!

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by andybeau » 22 Jun 2019 18:46

billshurv wrote:
22 Jun 2019 10:14
We get it. You don't like the OM series. But that does not make it 'mediocre'

And congratulations for the fastest proof of Godwin I have ever seen!
=D>

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by Pauw » 22 Jun 2019 19:14

+1

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Re: Ortofon OM5 series

Post by Luicas » 23 Jun 2019 20:19

OM series, particularly stylus 20 and up are VERY competent indeed. Excellent trackers. They sound just right. To me. They need 300-400pf of capacitance.

Stylus 10, being a bonded pseudo elliptical, has its problems tracking heavily modulated material and female vocal choruses. But 90% of the time sounds great. Very little IGD. I use two of them as daily drivers, keeping the 40th anniversary (stylus20/2M blue hybrid) and my stylus 30 for critical listening only.

Stylus 5 and below, I can’t give any comments as they’re out of my experience.

My point of comparison is a few mid range AT MC’s and MM’s that I own. (AT28; AT-F7; AT7V; AT12s; AT150sa; AT440mlb).

All of this is my subjective/personal opinion.

To my ears, the Ortofons outshine my AT’s. More natural sounding. And using the old HiFi concordes and bespoke lighter counterweights, I can lower the total effective mass of my system by 12 grams (give or take a few). High compliance & low mass, equals: excellent tracking, even on warped/shaky stuff.

And then of course, someone might have a different opinion and it’s cool.

Cheers!
Luis

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