AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

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AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by StylusLady » 16 May 2019 21:52

A friend gave me an Audio Technica cartridge and two Stanton styli some time ago, which her father had owned. The cartridge is an AT 36, period, not to be confused with the AT 36E MC cartridge. I could find very little about it. In fact, Audio Technica doesn’t even list it among their discontinued cartridges. I understand that there is an AT 3600 cartridge that is of relatively low quality compared to AT’s other carts. Is the AT 36 an incarnation of it? I am very curious if anyone could provide information about it.

In addition, I have a Stanton D6800EL stylus and a Stanton D680 stylus. As to the former, I gather it is a “DJ” use stylus. However, I am not sure whether it’s quality is related to that description. I have not found much in the way of information on either stylus. My main concern is whether I could get decent sound out of either, on the Technics SL-B2 turntable I just bought on eBay. It has an EPC cartridge, but no needle. Furthermore, I am wondering which cartridge and stylus combination of the carts/styli I have would be best with that turntable.
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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by denvertrakker » 16 May 2019 23:52

It's definitely NOT a relative of the 3600. It's some variation of the 10/11/12 series...still excellent performers - provided you can find a decent stylus for it. Most OEM styli are long gone, and aftermarkets are waaaay variable in quality.

Choices might be an ATN12S if you can afford one, or a Jico (Japan-sourced) ATN12. I wouldn't bother with the Swiss ones.

But don't write it off too quickly.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by Sunwire » 17 May 2019 00:59

Which EPC cartridge is on the turntable?
Is it a Technics cartridge? Most of their model numbers start with "EPC-". Some of them are very good.

The group A and group B needles on this page should work on your Audio Technica cartridge.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by Sunwire » 17 May 2019 01:16

There is a good chance your EPC cartridge is a Technics EPC-270, which was a common model used on Technics turntables.
If you do a search of the forum archives here for "EPC-270", you can find some comments on it. It is also in the cartridge database.
There are aftermarket needles available for it. They will range from OK to excellent in quality and price. It's probably similar in quality to the Audio Technica body. The stylus chosen will determine the sound quality no matter which body you decide to use.

If the Stanton D680 stylus is in good condition, the cheapest route to good sound might be to buy a Stanton 680 cartridge body that is missing a stylus. Sometimes these can be found on ebay pretty cheap.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by StylusLady » 17 May 2019 19:48

Uh-oh, my bad. The turntable does not have an EPC cartridge. It is an AT cartridge , which I suspect is an AT 3600, given price i paid of $71, including shipping from 3000 miles away. I say suspect because so far I have only the listing pictures to go by (unit hasn’t arrived yet). Given the responses from my previous post [THANKS !], it appears I would have two choices:
1) Use AT 36 cart I have and buy a different stylus, or
2). Use the Stanton D680 stylus I have and buy a Stanton cart

Is there any possibility of using the D680 stylus with the AT 36 cartridge? Neither of the model numbers indicate whether conical, elliptical—or spherical for that matter. I’m very new to cartridge nomenclature,?so the answer to this question might seem very easy to others

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by mamakasou » 18 May 2019 00:02

If the Stanton styli are originals, then I'd recommend you try them out.

The original D680 has a 0.3x0.7mil elliptical tip and a pleasant vintage tone. It's hard not to like.
The original D6800EL is also nice, especially the older variety (pre-Florida ones).
It has a 0.4x0.7mil tip and a higher output with almost identical performance and tonality to the D680.
Actually I prefer the broadcast types (also called 'DJ'), because of their robust construction, dynamic character and fuller sound.

AT also has some excellent cartridges and you can't beat its entry-level offerings in terms of value.
AT3600L/AT91 and AT-VM95C/E are some great performers, with many happy owners.
Nice tonality (warmer than the average ATs), with great tracking ability and musical sound.

My own personal preference gravitates towards the Stanton sound, but that's something you'd better decide for yourself by listening to all of them.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by AudioFeline » 19 May 2019 01:48

StylusLady wrote:
16 May 2019 21:52
... I understand that there is an AT 3600 cartridge that is of relatively low quality compared to AT’s other carts. ...
The AT3600L is an OEM cartridge, and as it's made in high volume it can be bought very cheaply. But don't let that put you off, apparently it is of very high quality and can compete against cart's priced many, many times higher. Look up the thread here for more info.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by Sunwire » 21 May 2019 07:24

"Is there any possibility of using the D680 stylus with the AT 36 cartridge?"

No

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by Collux » 21 May 2019 09:34

There is a comprehensive Stanton and Pickering cartridge/stylus cross reference, found here:
http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/stantondj.htm

Both your D6800EL and D680 styli are listed.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by Collux » 21 May 2019 12:11

Further:
Click on the "Cross Reference" Tab for this detail.

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Re: AT cartridge and 2 Stanton styli

Post by StylusLady » 31 May 2019 23:16

Thanks to all of you who responded to my posts. It is so helpful to get advice from those who know this area much better than I do.

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