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Shibata for MA-505

Postby Bartie67 » 14 Sep 2018 22:05

Goodevening , Tuesday I will have my Micro Seiki DD-40 .
I have a At150SA stylus wich is a Stylus Shape Shibata with a Stylus Construction Nude Square Shank on my Onkyo cp-1050.
The MA-505 tonearm has a anti skating mechanism for elliptical ( blue line) or spherical (red line) .

So my question is : how do I adjust the anti skating for the shibati stylus ?Do I set it for elliptical or spherical?
I would go for Spherical but I' m not shure.

I also have the Ortofon 2M blue stylus. This is an elliptical stylus.

Wich would be the best for the MA-505

Any Help is welcome

Greetings from Belgium
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby nat » 14 Sep 2018 22:56

I believe that Shibata styli need even more antiskating force than ellipticals since the contact area is narrower and longer than ellipticals. Tables that were made for CD4 cartridges usually had a slightly greater suggested force. I'd start with the elliptical scale, and adjust by ear if unsatsified.
It is possible to fret more than is actually productive about antiskating. It's a confusing and contentious area.
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby lynnot » 15 Sep 2018 20:03

Since records are not cut on max. amplitude/velocity - most of the musik is at average levels - it is better to reduce anti-skating to about half of the recomended levels.
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby Bartie67 » 16 Sep 2018 09:08

So , what I learn here is that I must experiment with the settings. I first will setup the table on Tuesday , then I will enjoy the music before I experiment.
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby watchnerd » 16 Sep 2018 15:24

lynnot wrote:Since records are not cut on max. amplitude/velocity - most of the musik is at average levels - it is better to reduce anti-skating to about half of the recomended levels.


30-40% of max modulation is what Soundsmith recommends.

But...the question then becomes if the typical number on an anti-skate dial already takes this into account?
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby Bartie67 » 16 Sep 2018 21:40

So , as being a junior member I read here that I must use the elliptical setting and reduce the anti skating by 30 - 40 % .

Is this only for the shibata or is this a generale rule?
I see Watchnerd mentioning " soundsmith" Is there a topic where I can read more about it?

Now for something completely different , can I use the Technics Overhang Gauge protractor to set up the cartridge on the Micro seiki ?
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby watchnerd » 16 Sep 2018 21:43

Bartie67 wrote:So , as being a junior member I read here that I must use the elliptical setting and reduce the anti skating by 30 - 40 % .

Is this only for the shibata or is this a generale rule?
I see Watchnerd mentioning " soundsmith" Is there a topic where I can read more about it?


https://www.sound-smith.com/faq/how-do- ... -cartridge

Note: Peter's opinions and methods are't universal, but very little is in the realm of skating.
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Re: Shibata for MA-505

Postby Bartie67 » 16 Sep 2018 22:18

This is very good info... I know what to do.... watch some more from soundsmith
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