New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by MCM_Fan » 04 Sep 2018 17:43

watchnerd wrote:
MCM_Fan wrote:Is it wrong that I'm more excited (short term) about the new HS6 headshell than all the cart/stylus options?
What's so special about the headshell?

It doesn't seem to offer azimuth and overhang adjustment like some of the more expensive AT headshells.
Nothing too special about it. I just need a few inexpensive headshells of decent quality for testing several cartridge/stylus combinations. It's attractive, appears to be well made, is inexpensive, comes in both black and silver, is inexpensive, comes with mounting hardware and is a good match, in terms of weight, for the stock headshell on my turntable.

I wouldn't expect azimuth adjustment for anything costing less than 2x the price, and as far as overhang adjustment, I can slide the cart back and forth within the mounting slots until I get it right.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by cubdukat » 14 Nov 2018 02:20

Think I might have to give this one some serious consideration, especially the ML and the SH ones. I've had my Grado Black1 on my mmf-2.2 for about six or seven months, and I already want out. I have officially fallen out of love with Grado Prestiges, and I was considering the Ortofon 2M Blue. But this looks like it'd be a better fit, and the Blue might be overkill. It should probably be a better match, since Music Hall was sticking their own AT95-based cartridge on my model's replacement, the mmf-2.3, and that one's not much different from mine other than the carbon fiber tonearm.

I'll have to wait until I see some reviews, though...

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by BMRR » 04 Feb 2019 12:18

I just ordered a VM95C. I had some B&H reward dollars burning a hole in my virtual pocket and they were due to expire soon. I'm looking forward to receiving it, and I'm going to do a comparison to the AT3600 and AT95C (AT3400). I'll post the clips here when they're ready. :)

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by PaulKehayas » 04 Feb 2019 13:33

Just wanted to also state that I am thoroughly enjoying the VM-95ML on my Jelco SA750E. It's full and rich and tracks amazingly well. Better than other carts I have had on that arm and that includes a Denon DL-103 with a Paratrace tip on it.
Really I am so happy with this. I hope that they keep it in the lineup for a long time.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by Desmofan » 10 Feb 2019 18:19

I have the VM-95EN on my Linn Axis with Basik Plus arm. I’d heard some reports that the ML sound was very “bright”.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by Vinylfreak86 » 10 Feb 2019 19:03

Did anyone test new version AT95EX with red stylus? Some are saying that it sounds much better than old green AT95, which is still available. I am thinking about it, but cannot test it anywhere.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by BMRR » 11 Feb 2019 15:00

Desmofan wrote:
10 Feb 2019 18:19
I’d heard some reports that the ML sound was very “bright”.
That's strange. All the reviews I've read of the VM95ML have stated that it is not bright.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by BMRR » 11 Feb 2019 15:02

Vinylfreak86 wrote:
10 Feb 2019 19:03
Did anyone test new version AT95EX with red stylus? Some are saying that it sounds much better than old green AT95, which is still available. I am thinking about it, but cannot test it anywhere.
Within the past year or two, AT changed the AT95E green stylus from .4x.7 to .3x.7, so it's now actually the same as the AT95EX (aside from the color).

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by andrad » 11 Feb 2019 16:58

BMRR wrote:
11 Feb 2019 15:02
Vinylfreak86 wrote:
10 Feb 2019 19:03
Did anyone test new version AT95EX with red stylus? Some are saying that it sounds much better than old green AT95, which is still available. I am thinking about it, but cannot test it anywhere.
Within the past year or two, AT changed the AT95E green stylus from .4x.7 to .3x.7, so it's now actually the same as the AT95EX (aside from the color).
There is a difference in the suspension for the cantilever between the E and EX. Apparently the EX uses an upgraded suspension over the E. The E goes up to 20,000Hz, the EX 22,000Hz.
I have the E and going to change to the EX next stylus change. Whether my ageing ears will be able to detect any difference ,of course, will be interesting to find out.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by smee4 » 11 Feb 2019 23:00

andrad wrote:
11 Feb 2019 16:58
BMRR wrote:
11 Feb 2019 15:02
Vinylfreak86 wrote:
10 Feb 2019 19:03
Did anyone test new version AT95EX with red stylus? Some are saying that it sounds much better than old green AT95, which is still available. I am thinking about it, but cannot test it anywhere.
Within the past year or two, AT changed the AT95E green stylus from .4x.7 to .3x.7, so it's now actually the same as the AT95EX (aside from the color).
There is a difference in the suspension for the cantilever between the E and EX. Apparently the EX uses an upgraded suspension over the E. The E goes up to 20,000Hz, the EX 22,000Hz.
I have the E and going to change to the EX next stylus change. Whether my ageing ears will be able to detect any difference ,of course, will be interesting to find out.
I am with BMRR. They changed the green stylus without telling anyone. I'll bet it is the same as the red one now. The stylus tip size change would account for the increase in frequency response.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by Vinylfreak86 » 12 Feb 2019 09:27

BMRR wrote:
11 Feb 2019 15:02
Vinylfreak86 wrote:
10 Feb 2019 19:03
Did anyone test new version AT95EX with red stylus? Some are saying that it sounds much better than old green AT95, which is still available. I am thinking about it, but cannot test it anywhere.
Within the past year or two, AT changed the AT95E green stylus from .4x.7 to .3x.7, so it's now actually the same as the AT95EX (aside from the color).
I will ask you, because I see that you know AT carts very well. What would you choose AT95EX or rather more expensive Sumiko Oyster with still conical stylus. Because I am thinking between those two. And both are good for 1980`s mid-range DD with medium-mass tonearm.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by andrad » 12 Feb 2019 10:27

smee4 wrote:
11 Feb 2019 23:00
andrad wrote:
11 Feb 2019 16:58
BMRR wrote:
11 Feb 2019 15:02


Within the past year or two, AT changed the AT95E green stylus from .4x.7 to .3x.7, so it's now actually the same as the AT95EX (aside from the color).
There is a difference in the suspension for the cantilever between the E and EX. Apparently the EX uses an upgraded suspension over the E. The E goes up to 20,000Hz, the EX 22,000Hz.
I have the E and going to change to the EX next stylus change. Whether my ageing ears will be able to detect any difference ,of course, will be interesting to find out.
I am with BMRR. They changed the green stylus without telling anyone. I'll bet it is the same as the red one now. The stylus tip size change would account for the increase in frequency response.
According to AT website AT95E, 0.3 x 0.7, 20 - 20,000Hz.
AT95EX, 0.3 x 0.7, 20 - 22,000Hz
My recollection of reading another thread a while back about this very question is that a forum poster, not sure if it was on VE, on contacting AT, if my memory serves me correctly, got a reply to the effect that the EX had an upgraded suspension. If I get a bit more time today I will try and locate that post just to make sure I am not having a senior moment !

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by chiz » 12 Feb 2019 10:55

AT95E spec was changed from 0.4 x 0.7 to 0.3 x 0.7 in 2015 which was around the same time the AT95EX was introduced.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by andrad » 12 Feb 2019 13:58

chiz wrote:
12 Feb 2019 10:55
AT95E spec was changed from 0.4 x 0.7 to 0.3 x 0.7 in 2015 which was around the same time the AT95EX was introduced.
Rather than trawling through trying to find the post I was reffering to. Thought I would try and get a definate answer from the horses mouth as I would like to know if it is worth going to the EX when I change stylus soon. So I have emailed AT this morning and will report back with their reply when I receive it.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

Post by BMRR » 12 Feb 2019 14:10

I also recall reading or hearing something about the EX having a "better" or "improved" suspension, although no specifics were provided.

If the EX really does have a better suspension, I would assume that this improvement was also included in the new VM95 series. Note that the VM95E has the same frequency response as the AT95EX: 20 Hz to 22,000 Hz.

The EX stylus is $45, and the VM95E cartridge is $49; rather than putting an EX stylus on an AT95E cartridge, it would make more sense to buy the new VM95E cartridge for only $4 more than the EX stylus.

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