New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the AT95

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by watchnerd » 02 Sep 2018 21:27

ttechnics wrote:Yes, which further reinforces the position.
And also true it the AT VM 'regular' series, and partially true for Ortofon 2M and Nagaoka MP series.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by watchnerd » 02 Sep 2018 21:29

Jdog1958 wrote:Can somebody give a rough approximation of those figures in US dollars?

Is that a Euro? Pardon me, I am an ignorant American... :D

I am curious to try one when they come out.

I also like the look of the headshell - hope they offer that separate!
at-vm95e_intro.jpg
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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by BMRR » 02 Sep 2018 22:09

US prices are listed on the US web site

https://www.audio-technica.com/cgi-bin/ ... l?lang=eng

VM95C is roughly the same price as AT91R / CN5625AL

VM95E is roughly the same price as AT95EX

VM95EN is roughly the same price as the old AT120E / AT120Eb

VM95ML is roughly the same price as the old AT440MLb

In short, the prices are very reasonable and continue to give us more "bang for the buck" than any other cartridge manufacturer I can think of.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by watchnerd » 03 Sep 2018 00:22

BMRR wrote:US prices are listed on the US web site

https://www.audio-technica.com/cgi-bin/ ... l?lang=eng

VM95C is roughly the same price as AT91R / CN5625AL

VM95E is roughly the same price as AT95EX

VM95EN is roughly the same price as the old AT120E / AT120Eb

VM95ML is roughly the same price as the old AT440MLb

In short, the prices are very reasonable and continue to give us more "bang for the buck" than any other cartridge manufacturer I can think of.
Yeah, $199 bucks for a (nude?) shibata is impressive.

I guess the VM-7 series gets you a better body?

But is the motor the same?

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by watchnerd » 03 Sep 2018 06:13

MCM_Fan wrote:I also posted this link in the What about cheap Chinese cartridges? thread, but thought this news was worthy of it's own thread:

IFA 2018: Audio-Technica launches new entry-level VM95 cartridge series, featuring the next generation model of the legendary AT95E:

https://audiotechnicanewsroom.com/2018/ ... ary-at95e/

One body that supports six stylus types (conical, bonded elliptical, nude elliptical, line contact, shibata and 78rpm).

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https://audiotechnicanewsroom.files.wor ... =376&h=282

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Does the VM95 series use the same engine / magnet structure of the rest of the VM series?

The name would make one think so, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by lini » 03 Sep 2018 14:34

wn: I'd guess that the VM95s will at least not sport laminated cores - and possibly also no centre shield plate. Whereas I'd assume the VM5x0/7x0s to have inherited both from the AT120 family. Some more technical differences are the different copper material and somewhat different output pins.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by Jdog1958 » 03 Sep 2018 19:45

watchnerd wrote:
Jdog1958 wrote:Can somebody give a rough approximation of those figures in US dollars?

Is that a Euro? Pardon me, I am an ignorant American... :D

I am curious to try one when they come out.

I also like the look of the headshell - hope they offer that separate!
at-vm95e_intro.jpg
conversion tools online

https://www.google.com/search?q=euro+to ... e&ie=UTF-8
I can find the conversion tools. I was just unsure what the symbol was.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by BMRR » 03 Sep 2018 20:18

lini wrote:wn: I'd guess that the VM95s will at least not sport laminated cores - and possibly also no centre shield plate. Whereas I'd assume the VM5x0/7x0s to have inherited both from the AT120 family.
I agree. It makes sense to keep the more sophisticated generator in the VM500/VM700 series, otherwise AT would cannibalize sales of that series if they used the same generator in the VM95 series.

Comparing the specs of the VM95ML to the VM540ML, the better generator of the former appears to result in superior specs:

VM540ML
Frequency response: 20-27,000 Hz
Channel separation: 28 dB
Channel balance: 1 dB

VM95ML
Frequency response: 20-25,000 Hz
Channel separation: 23 dB
Channel balance: 1.5 dB

Still a very, very good performance by the VM95ML! In fact, the specs for frequency response, separation, and balance are nearly identical to the Shure V15VxMR and slightly better than the V15 IV. Good luck finding those brand new for $169 these days. :wink:

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by Smoke Screen » 04 Sep 2018 00:27

Lets be honest here,those "specs" tell pretty little about cartridge quality.
At least you need a frequency response and crosstalk measurement over the whole
audioband,THD+IM distortion measurements at different VTF`s,trackability at low and high frequencies at different VTF`s and of course a good listening to evaluate it.
Nevertheless i appreciate that some thought was put into ease of handling and
freedom of choice regarding styly. However,AT did nothing to mitigate the requirement
for a very low load capacitance,which renders operating the cartridge in suboptimal
conditions in most cases.
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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by smee4 » 04 Sep 2018 00:42

Smoke Screen wrote:Lets be honest here,those "specs" tell pretty little about cartridge quality.
At least you need a frequency response and crosstalk measurement over the whole
audioband,THD+IM distortion measurements at different VTF`s,trackability at low and high frequencies at different VTF`s to evaluate it.
True, but to my ears, the old AT95 was great sounding (especially with a Vividline stylus on it), so I really expect the new one will be rather nice too.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by Eric Auer » 04 Sep 2018 01:01

This new range covers a lot of ground, from entry level to enthusiast.

And at a very good price.

I consider it good news for the community.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by Sunwire » 04 Sep 2018 03:59

Will AT95 styli fit on VM95 bodies?
And vice versa?

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by smee4 » 04 Sep 2018 04:20

Sunwire wrote:Will AT95 styli fit on VM95 bodies?
And vice versa?
The bottom looks similar but looks like some plastic surgery will be necessary to accommodate the sloping sideline, even if the important parts are the same.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by MCM_Fan » 04 Sep 2018 06:29

Is it wrong that I'm more excited (short term) about the new HS6 headshell than all the cart/stylus options?

I applaud AT's effort on the new carts and offering so many stylus options for an "entry level" cartridge, but right now, I have WAY more cartridge/stylus combinations I'd like to test than I do headshells. I see the HS6 is already listed in the Thakker.eu site, but can't find it on any US sites. I'll gladly order two or three of the HS6 headshells as soon as they become available. Better yet, I hope brick and mortar stores like Guitar Center and Fry's will carry them so I can just swing by and pick up another whenever I need one.

I'm sure I'll eventually pick up one of the new carts and try some of the different stylus options, but I'm in no hurry and will wait to read some reviews before jumping in and adding even more cartridges to my ever growing collection.

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Re: New Audio Technica VM95 Series - Next Generation of the

Post by watchnerd » 04 Sep 2018 15:27

MCM_Fan wrote:Is it wrong that I'm more excited (short term) about the new HS6 headshell than all the cart/stylus options?
What's so special about the headshell?

It doesn't seem to offer azimuth and overhang adjustment like some of the more expensive AT headshells.

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