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AT collectors syndrome

Postby billshurv » 17 Mar 2018 02:09

One of the curses of owning AT cartridges is the sheer historical and current range of stylii available which leads to the traditional angst of not knowing whether one is missing out on something. I fear I am in danger of falling into the 'AT collector club'. There are a few here (and you know who you are) who seem to collect AT like kids collect football cards and have more stylii than they would ever need!

Currently I only have microlines, but given that LP gear are doing the ATN150SA for $188 at the moment I was being tempted by that until a very good deal on a 155LC came up. So I now have a light and heavy body (150 and 440) Be, B al Al cantilevers and nice stylii. I'm set, nothing more needed.

Then I start thinking about the logic of having a 'cooking' stylus for casual listening and would a 120E or 7V be a better choice for that (well 0.2x.7 diamonds are rare these days, might be last chance to own). And then it hit me. I've become an AT collector without knowing it :). I've given myself a stiff talking to as I have at least a decades worth of play in new stylii already without counting the ortofons and my MCs, but not sure I can resist...

Is there a cure for this?
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby Sunwire » 17 Mar 2018 03:24

I hope there's a cure. I'm pretty sure I'm done now, though.
But I thought that before and then bought two more. :)

So far, in the AT100 family, I have two bodies: AT120E and AT155LC
and these styli:
ATN102P
4212-D6C
ATN120E
4208-DE
ATN122LP
ATN132EP (2) haven't received these yet
ATN152LP (2)
ATN155LC
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby jdjohn » 17 Mar 2018 03:53

Just make sure you don't start looking at AT's Cadillac line of Signet. Oops...did I just let that slip out?
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby audiodk » 17 Mar 2018 05:27

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Well, I guess I'm not the only one.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby dahoo » 17 Mar 2018 07:03

billshurv wrote:There are a few here (and you know who you are) who seem to collect AT like kids collect football cards and have more stylii than they would ever need!
Is there a cure for this?


I feel you, man. I have or used to have the following:
AT120e
AT120Ea
AT150e body
AT160ML body
AT440ML
ATN440MLbx3
ATN122EP
ATN100E
ATN150Sa
AT33e
ATOC9/II (On the way)

Just haven't got the luck to score an reasonable priced AT15Sa yet. Maybe it is fortunate for me.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby themisto462 » 17 Mar 2018 10:28

I've got also infected with the audio-technica virus... :D

The good thing ( ... or the bad thing? ) is, that they don't have only cartridges...

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audio-technica TRI-CAPSULE AT-6003 with AT-S headshell

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audio-technica TRI-CAPSULE AT-6003 with AT-S headshell

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audio-technica AT-MG 10, audio-technica AT-HS 10 SV, audio-technica AT-HS 10 BK

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audio-technica AUTOCLEANICA AT-6004

Best regards.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby chiz » 17 Mar 2018 13:18

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I have the cartridges that go with some of these, plus a couple of other cartridges from the 120 family... enough for quite a few different combinations :D
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby terry-a » 17 Mar 2018 16:44

I purchased a TD160 in 2012 that came with an AT15SS with some life left in the stylus. It immediately outplayed my Rega with Exact 2. This lead me to a small handful of newer AT cartridges, and more recently to a NOS ATN15SS for the AT15SS that sounds wonderful. I tried to stray from AT when I added a Dynavector DV20X2L to the collection. I hated it. I got out from under the DV by trading it for a Hana SL. It took some time for the Hana to break in, but after some time with it I'd swear it's a member of the AT family.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby Sunwire » 17 Mar 2018 19:58

jdjohn - My first and only AT cartridge for many years was a Signet TK3E, for which I bought a TK5E stylus as an upgrade way back around 1980.
I never stopped playing records, but got back into it more seriously a few years ago.
At that point I wanted to find a TK7 stylus for my TK3 and discovered it was hard and expensive to do.
I then started looking at AT compatible styli I could use.
I eventually realized it would make more sense to get into the newer cartridge body style for which there were many more available styli at more reasonable prices.
I'm glad I got into it when I did because now the good cheap styli are disappearing.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby audiodk » 18 Mar 2018 04:27

jdjohn wrote:Just make sure you don't start looking at AT's Cadillac line of Signet. Oops...did I just let that slip out?

I found one more...not an AT but is sure looks like one. This is a Precept. It's a division of AT U.S. Inc. Looks like it suffered the same fate as Signet.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby jdjohn » 18 Mar 2018 05:26

I'm just sayin'...a Signet TK3Ea will fit all ATN100/120/440 styli, and sound wonderful.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby billshurv » 18 Mar 2018 12:38

You are all bad men I hope you realise :P. So, noting a TK5e on ebay at the moment, what is the difference between E and Ea series. quick eyeball suggests different stylus mount.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby Sunwire » 18 Mar 2018 20:01

Oh, that reminds me, I have a Signet TK5Ea and the aforementioned TK3E I should have included in my list of AT cartridges.

The Ea series uses the same stylus mount as the AT100 series (rectangular hole).
The E series uses the older stylus mount as the AT10 series (round hole).

One thing I found very confusing is that there is an AT100 model in both series.

See the list of some of the needles for each series here:
http://stereoneedles.com/audio-technica.html

Signet TK*E use group A and B needles.
Signet TK*Ea use group K and L needles.
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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby lini » 19 Mar 2018 00:18

Sunwire wrote: (...) One thing I found very confusing is that there is an AT100 model in both series. (...)


That as well as that there also were the AT105/110E/115E and that the "new" AT100E was a very late member, while the AT120E was the original base model, are the reasons, while I usually rather call it "(wider) AT120 family" (wider, if I want to refer to the whole family including the T4P models and also all Signet siblings, all ATxV models et cetera...).

Greetings from Munich!

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Re: AT collectors syndrome

Postby fresherr » 22 Mar 2018 05:57

I'm not going to call AT collecting a 'curse', but I sure will admit it to be an addiction. I stopped counting at 20 cartridges and as many NOS spare stylii. I also love the MG9&10, and MS-8&9 headshells. Couple that with AT6101 wires and I'm a happy camper.

Having measured the resistance and inductance of all my carts, they are now familiar enough to swap them depending on the type of music I'll be playing, i.e. big band, jazz, latin, single instruments, vocals, etc. Laurindo Almeida on guitar and Bob Magnusson on double bass with an AT25 is pure bliss. Ramsey Lewis trio is not far behind.

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