Goldring E3

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Goldring E3

Post by TD 166 MKII » 15 Jul 2018 08:27

I purchased the New Golding E3, I was looking to purchases the new Sumiko Rainier but want be in stock tell end of summer/fall. I must admit I am very impressed with this Cart. and agree with Hi-Fi's review of it, but I believe they where being quite conservative on the Frequency extensions Hi and Low as I have found it will reproduce very low Freq. with drive and the high Freq. extension is the same. Cymbals crash, splash, and sizzle with very extended ring. Hi Hats are very crisp and precise and tight. Bass is very tight and Bass drums have great thud to them and toms are tight but if they have a ring to them it is heard. Snare drums will have that chain sizzle to them yet deliver a beautiful crack/snap sound on the rim shots.
Subtle things I noticed, when brushes are used on the drums it sounds like brushes not like a background noise. Trumpets will leave your ears ringing, but not in a negative way more of a wow. Sax's will produce that breath sound as it is being played. Bass and Acoustic Guitar strings pop when plucked and when done aggressively you can hear the stain from the strings.
As you can tell I am impressed with this Cart. and believe it would hard to beat at it price and would have to spend much more for little gain. I very much prefer listening to the E3 over the Nagaoka MP-110 and I find it reminds me of the MP-11 Boron which was well known as the Cart. killer from the Eighties.
I guess I have close to 10 hours on it and is still breaking in, and each time I have run the Cart. it has gotten better, at this point it seems to becoming quieter as it runs the grooves. Looking forward to what comes in the next 10 hours.
I forgot to mention that Cart. set up is a breeze with the Cart. mounted threads.
If you are looking for a new Cart. or want to try something else that won't cost you 2 weeks pay, I believe you find it more then satisfying. Hope to hear from some others with the E3 and their thoughts.
https://www.whathifi.com/goldring/e3/review

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by nico » 15 Jul 2018 10:05

Totally agree with you TD. A great cartridge. I’m currently alternating between e3 and Sumiko pearl. Both cartridges are a bit richer sounding than other makes i’ve used. My e3has done a few hundred hours and I think you will see further slight improvements. Funnily enough i’m also keeping an eye for the Sumiko rainier in the UK, which I think will be my next cartridge.

I have an MP 11boron as well, and prefer the e3 in my system, the MP 11b is a bit bland in comparison.

Just to give some context to my evaluation my other LP 12 in separate system is Klimax spec with Kandid/ urika and I can quite happily Listen to the second system (e3 or pearl) straight after without feeling i’m Missing out massively. This level of MM cartridges certainly do many things well.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by james73_2008 » 19 Jul 2018 21:58

Found an interesting video on YT. The E-series are basically AT95s!





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Re: Goldring E3

Post by nico » 19 Jul 2018 22:35

Hi James, i’m Not quite sure what the person who made the video is showing other than an at 95 with a different/better stylus. I don’t think that is actually an e3 body. I have both at 95ex and Goldring e3 mounted in exactly the same standard jelco 750 headshells. And I can tell you the e3 is quite a lot better in most areas. It is warmer and yet more open and has a much wider sound stage that the 95. I’m sure there are a few other touches as well as a better stylus that has gone in to making the e3.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by chiz » 19 Jul 2018 22:57

james73_2008 wrote:The E-series are basically AT95s!
Aha! As I suspected:
https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... 75&start=7

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by Waves-n-Fields » 21 Jul 2018 06:13

Interesting after 4:20 in the video you can see how off-center the hole was punched in the record, as the tonearm wavers back and forth...

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by s1aw0 » 07 Feb 2019 14:50

Listen brand new Goldring E3 for a few hours and honestly I must say, it's better than my Nagaoka MP 110.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by Boltman92124 » 07 Feb 2019 16:59

james73_2008 wrote:
19 Jul 2018 21:58
Found an interesting video on YT. The E-series are basically AT95s!





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Huh? This is a Goldring E3>
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Re: Goldring E3

Post by james73_2008 » 11 Feb 2019 22:27

Yes it is. Remove the black plastic frame and underneath it's the same shape as the AT95E.

You can see that here:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... SX466_.jpg

I thought this was known already. It was certainly discussed in the other thread that's linked above.


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Re: Goldring E3

Post by TD 166 MKII » 12 Feb 2019 00:54

But it is made to Goldring's requirements. I don't know if they do any tweaks to it after like MoFi and I believe Clear Audio.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by Vinylfreak86 » 12 Feb 2019 10:22

It is well known that cheaper Goldring`s are now made by Audio-technika. If you look at the price it cannot be surprising. AT has ability of huge production and many parts are assembled in China. But this doesn`t mean that Goldring E series and AT95 are the same.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by Boltman92124 » 12 Feb 2019 17:56

I fell for the Goldring Elektra at $99. Could have just bought the "Red Ed" for $30. Oh well. Never use it either..too rolled off on top.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by raphaelmabo » 12 Feb 2019 19:36

And the Goldring 2x00-serie is made by Nagaoka and is a moving iron design similar to Nagaoka's own moving permalloy. And they sound very different from Nagaoka's own cartridges. Goldring sounding more hard, more dynamic, faster, more energy in the treble, more forward.

Even if the Goldring E-serie uses the generators from Audio Technica, it is Goldring's own body design. And the cartridge body affects the sound, because it handles resonances. It's like a musical instrument, like a violin. The body has an impact on the sound.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by patient_ot » 12 Feb 2019 21:46

Vinylfreak86 wrote:
12 Feb 2019 10:22
It is well known that cheaper Goldring`s are now made by Audio-technika. If you look at the price it cannot be surprising. AT has ability of huge production and many parts are assembled in China. But this doesn`t mean that Goldring E series and AT95 are the same.
One could measure the resistance, inductance, and output to see how similar they are. One could also take them apart, and/or do further measurements on them. Word is even examples of the AT95 vary quite a bit. If you buy five of them, one of them could be slightly better than the others with things like channel separation.

When someone says the E3 is "much better" than the AT95, my B.S. detector goes on high alert. If it really is "much better", measure it and show us how much better it is.

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Re: Goldring E3

Post by patient_ot » 12 Feb 2019 21:55

raphaelmabo wrote:
12 Feb 2019 19:36
And the Goldring 2x00-serie is made by Nagaoka and is a moving iron design similar to Nagaoka's own moving permalloy. And they sound very different from Nagaoka's own cartridges. Goldring sounding more hard, more dynamic, faster, more energy in the treble, more forward.

The 2000 series has much higher output than than Nagaoka cartridges. That alone would point to a different design (stronger magnet, more turns of coil wire).

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