Yes, I run a shop dealing in functioning/serviced vintage equipment of various types.Paraneer wrote:True, but you'll also get a warranty when buying new. And supporting someone who has a job here in the USA if it happens to be a U-Turn.wrote:Let's speculate...
A Pioneer PL-12 on CL = $20
A Dual 12xx on CL = maybe $40.
Needs a bit of work.
A shop would charge $80-150.
End result - same basic cost, much better quality.
No particleboard platter!
No plastic bearings!
And your example of a PL-12 or a Dual assumes that one can find those TT's for $20-$40. Good luck with that.
Most likely they are going to cost more, even on CL. And by the time you add the shop cost of $80-$150, you have exceeded the units value. Fully functioning PL-12's are selling for $100-$150 on EBAY. That's what I mean by vintage being cost ineffective if one cannot do the work themselves.
I have no agenda and certainly don't repair vintage audio equipment for a living or own a shop selling new gear. Do you? I just think that potential buyers should be fully informed of all the pros and cons before spending their hard earned cash.
Vintage is fine if your technically inclined. But if you have to take it to a shop, you may want to consider new too.
And yes, I offer a warranty with everything.
Costs are reasonable as well - because everything performs "like new", as well as having a solid reputation for quality.
Vintage is in big demand, I've seen it continuously increase the past decade.
People are digging out their old stuff, passing it on, and enjoying it again.
The rise of "new" companies are obviously trying to capitolize on this fact, but their efforts are focused on similarly "new" technologies, because that's what gains them the best profit margins. (3D printing, etc.)
Good business sense, perhaps, but at the expense of quality that they no longer want to indulge in.
The same goes for some of the Big Companies these days - cheapening, as opposed to putting in durablity.
Washing machines with co-polymer gears in their transmissions - god forbid someone overloads the machine - co-polymer (plastic) cannot possibly hold up like tempered steel gearing.
Plasisize it to death, save a few bucks, and ship it.
Go read reviews... Speed Queen seems to be the only one still using steel where it counts.
The current Samsung phone/washer dramas - just a recent headline, they've been dealing with YEARS of class-action suits for their crummy flat screen tvs.
Pure Garbage - Google some reviews or their lawsuits.
Trust me,as a servicer, I can peek into these garbage cans resembling tv sets - the unwary customer can't see the cheapness they've bought.
But... it's new "technology" you say?
That's why I hear of maybe 3 years use all the time, from pissed off customers.
The DLP sets have been crapping out for a while now.. some quality, huh?
The newer LED sets? - driven to burnout after 3 years - why? - to impress the buyer with it's Super Bright picture.
It's the current mentality forced upon the public - buy the junk, don't complain much, companies are laughing behind your back while they fill their pockets with your money..
I refuse to buy a bare-bones turntable that embraces cost-cutting, and plastic bearings, poorly mounted motors, and claims of American Pride.
That's not American as it once was.
I'd sooner buy a quality vintage product or service it, should the need arise.
And the money spent would certainly be worth it.