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Re: Ariston turntable fans ? Can you help me identify mine ?

Post by ChrisDC » 10 Dec 2017 22:57

nat wrote:Interesting. That sure looks like a direct driver motor used with the belt. In which case the three position switch must be 33 and 45 and off, with the two knobs being speed controls. I had no idea that Ariston used anything other than the standard belt drive motors. Perhaps that's why its superieur.
I must say I was amazed when I Googled a bit to see how many variations of the RD11 there were! So I'm glad I could contribute these. Will very likely have to strip that motor again so will try and take better shots with more detail, both sides, and include part numbers etc. Maybe a rear view of the switches and controls and the suspension too in case anyone is interested.

Oh, and Neil did contact me so I have the info I need now.

Thanks guys!

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Re: Ariston turntable fans ? Can you help me identify mine ?

Post by Capn_Redbeard » 12 Dec 2017 17:36

Cheers Chris,

What i PM'd to Chris was this link to the PAPST GS38.09 motor datasheet, here hosted by John Gordon of Odyssey Engineering. Thank you John.

http://thesourceturntable.blogspot.co.u ... sheet.html

Keep up the good work everyone.

Xx.

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Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by JazzFogie » 16 Jan 2018 07:57

Hello everyone,
I was given a couple of scrap turntables on the weekend, two 1970's Japanese belt-drives: a Technics SL-20 and this other better-quality one...

The unknown one is clearly made in Japan, with an SME-style headshell mount on the seemingly-familiar tonearm and male RCA connectors on the underside of the unit. It intrigues me, mostly because I can't identify it.

I'm almost keen to try and get it going. They also came with a few cartridges. A Matsushita (Technics) EPC-290C on the SL-20; an blue ADC K8E in the box and some other thing that looks like a Sonotone 3509 with a 1/2" adapter but is labeled "Japan" (?)

Any help on identifying the unknown TT is greatly appreciated!

Also if anyone cares to comment on whether the ADC K8E or Technics 290C carts are worth getting new styli to try out?

Cheers,
Peter

http://www.peterdewaal.com/images/ChassisTopVE.jpg
http://www.peterdewaal.com/images/PlatterVE.jpg
http://www.peterdewaal.com/images/UndersideVE.jpg

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by themisto462 » 16 Jan 2018 10:01

Hello Peter.

It looks quite similar to the Sansui SR-212.
Maybe an OEM, made for another brand...?

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by JazzFogie » 16 Jan 2018 20:34

Hi, I think you are right. The tonearm and controls are in the same positions and the style of the warning labels are the same.
It could be an okay unit 'if' I build a plinth for it. The VE page says signal to noise ratio is "> 45dB", not particularly good. The platter bearing appears to be just a brass tube, and the platter is also very light-weight. The chassis itself is quite a decent steel pressing, and of course it is mounted on un-damped springs.
Do you know if Sansui made the arm themselves, or if it is an OEM?

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by themisto462 » 16 Jan 2018 21:22

JazzFogie wrote:The tonearm and controls are in the same positions and the style of the warning labels are the same.
And even the "guts" look nearly identical.
It could be an okay unit 'if' I build a plinth for it.
In my opinion, it would be a nice project, to bring it back to life. With a self build veneer or real wood plinth it could become a real beauty. Also a great idea as a gift, with a special personal note for a family member or a good friend... .
Do you know if Sansui made the arm themselves, or if it is an OEM?
I don't know.

But I think, like for many other brands, they were made from one of the specialised tonearm manufacturers.

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by KentT » 16 Jan 2018 22:09

This turntable looks to be built by Fujiya Audio in Japan. Basic but decent belt drive Japanese turntable with an AC motor, many of them were sold under quite a number of brands.

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by gridleakrick » 19 Jan 2018 08:47

It may be similar but it is not a Sansui SR-212. I serviced one of them a while ago and the motor is different and it appears to lack the two plastic oil tubes which go from the top to the motor bearings that are on the Sansui.
Rick

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by petemcfc1 » 19 Jan 2018 15:53

Agreed its not a 212,the selector switches and the plinth are different,though its very close.

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by themisto462 » 19 Jan 2018 16:17

gridleakrick wrote:...It may be similar but it is not a Sansui SR-212...
petemcfc1 wrote:...Agreed its not a 212,...
That's why I wrote:

"...It looks quite similar to the Sansui SR-212.
Maybe an OEM, made for another brand..."... :wink:

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Re: Japanese belt-drive, please help identify?

Post by JazzFogie » 21 Jan 2018 12:56

Thank you to everyone for the interesting comments.
I'm sure the OEM's of the Japanese 70's-80's hi-fi boom are another fascinating topic.

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Can Anyone help Identify This ...?

Post by blob0007 » 22 Mar 2018 11:01

Hello All,

I recently bought this turntable at a flea market but I can't work who made it,

It has a wooden plinth and base, a Mission tone arm and Grado stylus and plays very nicely,

the only clues I have are the Acorn Logo on the lid and a serial number on the back of the base WA000049

Many thanks.
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Re: Can Anyone help Identify This ...?

Post by paul401 » 22 Mar 2018 12:01

Hi,
welcome. What you have there is 'the Oak' turntable, made by a small company of the same name around the early - mid eighties. I recall they were well reviewed at the time, as your listening test bear out. Don't know what you paid, but suspect you may have got yourself a nice find and a bargain.
Web search "oak turntable" will bring up more info on this deck as well as lots of non relevant stuff about oak turntables! :)

Paul
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Re: Can Anyone help Identify This ...?

Post by Solist » 22 Mar 2018 12:07

Congratulations! I that looks to be a nice turntable :D The tonearm looks like something that Jelco would make, very similar to the st-250.

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Re: Can Anyone help Identify This ...?

Post by blob0007 » 22 Mar 2018 14:02

Many thanks for the info, I will look it up :)

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