Kashofa wrote: ↑
01 Oct 2019 17:23
vinyl master wrote: ↑
01 Oct 2019 05:25
Just curious, but what idlers did you have again, kashofa?
All relatively inexpensive...
Elac Miracord 40A - seems to work reliably but has a wicked wobble in the platter. I have not stripped it down to the bearings to see if that will help.
Garrard 440M - Siezed speed selection as usual when purchased. I tore it down cleaned and lubricated. Speed selection is now extremely smooth. Speed is reliable. Platter wobbles. I did lubricate the bearing when it was apart. It seemed OK when I added lubricant. The wobble is not terrible like the Miracord, but it's obvious. I'm used to 80s DD platters that spin without perceptible wobble and don't like seeing this. It does play 78s and tracks ok despite the wobble. That's with a V15 cartridge and a new 78 stylus.
Purchased a 2nd Garrard 440 because it was cheap and to compare. Platter wobbles identically to my first, and speed selection is siezed. I have not torn it down to fix.
Dual 1019 - At last a platter that spins without wobbling! I was able to clean it up and resolder a loose wire. Speed is not working. Speed selector works fine, but at 78 spins variously anywhere from 70 to 58 rpm. I am preparing to send out the idler for a re-rubbering. If the speed can be made to work I'll start on the tonearm drop points. Currently it misses the start of a 10" record and doesn't quite come back to the stop point and about 3/4 of the time decides to replay the record instead of stopping at the end.
I wouldn't say I've given up on these. They are a bit fun to work on (and cheaper and easier than the Volvo S70 that was my previous mechanical toy). But honestly I like listening to 78s while these projects are not actually functioning. So the AT120 has been a wonderful addition :)
And someone might want to caution new idler buyers exactly what they are getting into ;)
The 40a and the 1019 are great idlers, by the way, kashofa, although I've never had a major wobble issue with mine...I did buy the Elac from an older gentleman who took good care of his for many years and the 1019 came from one of the members here on VE...Of course, as with any TT one buys, it can always use a little more TLC...One thing I wanted to ask...Where is the turntable situated? Is it on a level surface? A good round bubble level can help determine that and is a good tool to have in your arsenal...There were some thoughts here, as well, on the subject of platter wobble...
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ ... er.393627/
Regarding the speed issue on the 1019, sometimes these things are a matter of trial-and-error to get it working and playing correctly...Check out these threads here, too...
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php ... 19.860425/
https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... hp?t=26897
By any chance, have you lubricated the motor? That's one major area you could focus on, if you haven't...I will also say that if you want to give it another go, you should contact our own Don about the Dual kit he sells, if you haven't already...Don's (member mrow2 here) kit is worth the purchase JUST for the informative PDF file he includes that explains more in detail on refurbishing and restoring these old Duals than I can go into on one post...Of course, he also includes a sample of the right Alvania grease and a proper steuerpimpel or two...You could PM him for more details and the purchase helps him to keep making these kits for all the Dual newbies out there...It might be just what the doctor ordered! :wink:
In any case, maybe something there will help...They're not worth giving up on, at least not yet, and if you ever DID decide to sell them, I'm sure there would be no shortage of takers willing to tackle those projects...
You could also start a separate post or two about them here on VE, if you haven't yet and maybe get a few more responses...They are excellent turntables that just need a little time, love and patience... =D>