Need some help selecting a turntable

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mscherlacher
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Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by mscherlacher » 14 Dec 2019 15:10

Hello all.

Hoping to get some thoughts on a suitable turntable (for me). Let me start with I need something that will play 78s. Having something that I can adjust the speed between 60-90rpms may help but it needs to have a tone arm that has a removable headshell. All of the 78s I own now are actually recorded at 78 but I know some are not. I mostly listen to lps though and would like something that sounds decent.
I bought a AT120x because it seemed to check all of my boxes but in reality there is way to much w/f. I listen to mostly classical music and it really shows up in the strings and piano. Maybe I got a bad one? Do I try another one and hope I get a good one?

I'm also looking at the Music Hall mmf1.5 or a Stanton st150. I like the idea of the Stanton because it seems to be built well and has pitch control but will it sound decent with a hundred dollar cart? I can't justify spending a lot of money on a nice table right now, just getting back into vinyl after 25 years and only have a couple hundred lp's - that are mostly worn out.

Is there other tables that I'm missing? Should I try to find a used sl1200 that hasn't been beat to hell? and if so, what are they worth?

Thanks in advance.
Mike

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by Solist » 14 Dec 2019 15:28

If you need 78rpm then you will need to look at idler drives. Duals 1019, 1229.. Elac Miracords, etc.They have 5% pitch adjustment.

The only turntable that I know that is able to play 78rpm and has infinity adjustment of pitch, is the Lenco L75,78.

You should not hear any speed issues with the idler drives if you properly restore them. My 1019 still measures 0,05 w&f after 50 years of use.

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by vinyl master » 14 Dec 2019 17:49

Where are you located, mscherlacher? I probably could find you some very suitable candidates in your area for inspection! Are you game to give me a chance??? :-k I've helped many a member here find the perfect phonograph, turntable, receiver, amplifier and/or a number of other pieces and equipment and many times, they didn't have to spend an arm and a leg...I've bought 33 turntables over the last several years, and the only ones I paid full price for are ones I never use due to subpar quality (A Sony & a Crosley that I bought before finding this site)...The ones I do use have cost me less than $100, with most of them under $50...The Sansui and Pioneers in my main systems were $50 or less, with the Sansui only being $25...I have a great Elac that was $25 and five Duals so far that were bought at fair prices...My first one, the 1226, was $45 and so was my 1009SK, and then, I have three Technics models (SL-D202, SL-D2, SL-D3) that were all under $50 each, so I'm proof that these things DON'T have to cost a fortune! Let me know where you're at and I could probably find something similar or at least in the ballpark...Keep in mind that many of my purchases have needed work, hence the cheap prices, but they were more than worth it at the time...Buying locally allows you to check out the turntable in person, maybe watch it work and meet some other great music lovers and audiophiles in your area, too, so what have you got to lose??? :-k

Give me a chance to see what I can find for you! I might just find something perfect and it can't hurt to look, right??? :-k :D

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by lenjack » 14 Dec 2019 19:07

Welcome to our forum. Take vinyl master's advice.

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by mscherlacher » 14 Dec 2019 22:46

Thanks for the replies. Vinylmaster I would love some help. I live in Albuquerque and have only looked at Craigslist. To be honest I have no idea about old tables.
My requirements are that it will play 78's and hopefully have (a lot of) pitch control.

Found a sl1200mk2 on there but they want $550. Seems too steep to me. ? That would be perfect though. Swiss army knife.

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by vinyl master » 15 Dec 2019 00:00

Albuquerque, eh? Well, maybe while looking around, you just took a wrong turn like Bugs did...



Let me steer you right, my friend...And to preface this, I'd be remiss if I didn't show you everything...Take a look at these I found...

A very good deal on this Techie...I bought one of these some time back, too!

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 35856.html

And then...

https://cosprings.craigslist.org/ele/d/ ... 66267.html

This guy's got a bunch of stuff...

https://santafe.craigslist.org/ele/d/sa ... 20197.html

There was also this interesting system...

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 76169.html

And then, while not technically near you, I found this in Tucson...A real deal and it will do all you want it to do...

https://tucson.craigslist.org/ele/d/tuc ... 31164.html

Another lovely example and will play those 78's...

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/ele/ ... 30847.html

This one only has the two speeds, but a great deal, as well...

https://sierravista.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 87203.html

This one's interesting, too...

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/ ... 32977.html

And an unusual one...

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/ele/ ... 75941.html

A little bit pricey, but a decent one here, too...

https://flagstaff.craigslist.org/ele/d/ ... 82881.html

orrr...

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/ ... 00842.html

This guy may have something or know where to look...If you ever need a repair guy, he might be worth keeping in mind...

https://vintage-audio-joe.business.site/

orrr...

http://www.crowntv.net/stereo-repair

orrr...

http://www.budget-tv.com/items-we-service.html

Check out these places, too...

http://www.slolow.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Charleys33sandCDs/?ref=hl
http://nobhillmusic.com/
https://vinylconsumption.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category ... 505084598/
https://longhairrecords.com/
https://www.facebook.com/cristyrecords/

Saw this on EBay, too...

Out of Phoenix...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-Dual-1219- ... SwSgFd35ND

And of course, you might want to pair one of those up with a matching vintage amp or receiver like these...

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 93597.html
https://santafe.craigslist.org/ele/d/ta ... 25317.html
https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 52572.html
https://santafe.craigslist.org/ele/d/sa ... 35644.html

Of course, if you still want to splurge, there is that Techie...

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ele/ ... 81141.html

Remember, too, to check flea markets, thrift shops, antique stores, estate sales and the like for ideas and equipment...You never know what you might find digging around...

Hopefully, something there will help...

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by mscherlacher » 15 Dec 2019 17:41

Vinyl Master!
Thank you for the links. The Dual in Tucson would be perfect but I don't have the time to drive down there and I don't want to try to ship a turntable. I loved the inclusion of Bugs, pretty sure those cartoons are how I ended up here.

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Re: Need some help selecting a turntable

Post by vinyl master » 15 Dec 2019 20:15

You might also want to check out these places in Albuquerque and ask around, too...

http://www.antiquespecialtymall.com/
https://www.facebook.com/LosRanchosAntiqueMall
https://www.nmestatesantiquescollectibl ... -mall.html
https://www.facebook.com/AntiqueCoOpon4th/
https://www.visitalbuquerque.org/listin ... bles/2453/
https://www.facebook.com/The-Other-Indo ... 748821815/
https://www.facebook.com/FamilyIndoorFleaMarket
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flea-Mar ... 4695954311
https://www.facebook.com/200fmtc/
https://www.facebook.com/uneekfindingsabq/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moriarty ... 9634054057

If all else fails, you might find some cool records in your hunting and might make for a fun road trip around the city when you have some time to spare...

There are also like seven or eight Goodwills in your area...Locations on San Mateo Blvd., Coors Blvd. SW, Lincoln Rd. NE, Juan Tabo Blvd. NE, Holly Ave. NE, Caminito Coors NW, NM Hwy 528, and Menaul Blvd. NE...

There are three Salvation Army stores, too, on Bryn Mawr Dr. NE, Central Ave. NE and Silver Ave. SE...

And then...

https://thrifttown.com/
https://stores.savers.com/nm/albuquerqu ... -1040.html
http://abqfamilythrift.com/
https://www.eastcentralministries.org/C ... hrift.aspx
https://www.thriftalotnm.org/
https://www.facebook.com/SvdpabqStore
https://www.facebook.com/NewHeightsThriftStore/
https://www.safehousenm.org/thriftique
https://www.facebook.com/scavengersthriftstorenm/
http://www.joyjunction.org/thrift-shopp ... -junction/
https://www.facebook.com/mabqgracethrift/
https://paws-thrift-store.business.site ... m=referral
https://stjohnsabq.org/outreach/saint-j ... rift-shop/
https://the-blessing-inc-thrift-store.business.site/

Also, you have 812 Retro on Marquez Lane and Avenger's Vintage, which I hear has lots of records to keep the place "retro"...

https://avengers-vintage.business.site/

There is this annual event, too...

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_ ... exico.html

https://www.exponm.com/p/fleamarket

You might also want to reach out to these guys, too...They are more into antique radios, but maybe they know of some electronics swap meets out there that might yield a turntable or two...

https://newmexicoradiocollectorsclub.com/

I have a great Vintage Electronics Expo coming up here soon in the Detroit area come January...

https://www.thevee.org/

If you want to see some of my past adventures there, check these out...

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=93210
viewtopic.php?t=101899
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=109674

You might want to check some of those places out in your area above, though, and see what they have...As I said, if you don't find any equipment, you might still find some cool records and make it worth the trip...A few more people, places and events to think about, in any case... :-k

And if you find someone selling records or electronics, a tip...It doesn't hurt to ask what else they've got...You might just get a good lead! :wink:

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