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Vagante
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Spindle size

Post by Vagante » 09 Dec 2019 13:56

I have 2 turntables, a thorens TD 165 and a Dual 1219. The spindle size on the thorens is slightly larger than the dual. Occasionally I get a record that doesn't quite fit on the Thorens and I tried to ring it out with a pencil or pen. Does anyone have a suggestion as to a better fix on this?

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Re: Spindle size

Post by tlscapital » 09 Dec 2019 14:28

The Thorens spindle is not the issue at stake here. Likely the Dual spindle is intentionally too narrow to spare such too narrow spindle hole record's issues. So the issue is with some lies with records. To solve this too narrow spindle hole on records most enlarge the hole by sanding it gently for a softer yet precisely centered slide through the "larger" spindle.

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Re: Spindle size

Post by lenjack » 09 Dec 2019 15:09

Most likely, the Thorens spindle is correct. The original AR was this way. When measured, it was the only one that was the correct size, while others were too small. Some records have too small a center hole. The idea was to prevent off center wow.

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Re: Spindle size

Post by Vinylfreak86 » 09 Dec 2019 17:08

In majority cases problem is with a hole in the record. Some of them have too small hole and they go harder through the spindle. But I still prefer those like the ones, which have too large hole and then record is slightly dancing when turning and playing and it affects the grooves.

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Re: Spindle size

Post by bernard1 » 09 Dec 2019 17:41

Vagante wrote:
09 Dec 2019 13:56
I have 2 turntables, a thorens TD 165 and a Dual 1219. The spindle size on the thorens is slightly larger than the dual. Occasionally I get a record that doesn't quite fit on the Thorens and I tried to ring it out with a pencil or pen. Does anyone have a suggestion as to a better fix on this?
Exactly the same issue on my 1976 TD 166. I thought it was normal until I bought a 160 super some years later that did not had this problem. I have to borrow a caliper to measure the two spindles, as I still own those two turntables :D

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Re: Spindle size

Post by rudymerz » 09 Dec 2019 19:06

I mainly have that problem with reissues. Not so much with originals. I bought a reamer tool and carefully make the hole wider. To do that I put the record in an inner paper jacked, the one with the label cut-out. Problem solved.

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Re: Spindle size

Post by lenjack » 09 Dec 2019 20:08

If you do resize the hole, be VERY careful, not to overdo it, as you may induce wow, if the record is placed off center.

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Re: Spindle size

Post by JDJX » 09 Dec 2019 20:46

Yeah, the vintage Thorens do have a slightly larger spindle size than standard .
Add to that, some LPs have a very slightly under size spindle hole .

When I have to, I just ream out the LP hole with this..
It's just a small piece of old sandpaper rolled up with the grit side out.
Usually, just two or three twists with it is all it takes.

It's one thing where a bit of common sense goes a long ways.
As already alluded to, you do not want to ream it out too much. :)
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Re: Spindle size

Post by Vagante » 10 Dec 2019 01:32

Thanks all....all makes sense

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Re: Spindle size

Post by kalaur » 10 Dec 2019 09:46

This reamer works very well for clearing the flashing or slightly increasing the spindle size on vinyl - https://www.mscdirect.com/product/detai ... m=02401057

However, be aware as since its so sharp you can easily overdo it. I don't clamp it in a handle, I just spin it with my fingers.

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