Philips type AG 1014/19

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Stewen
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Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by Stewen » 14 Oct 2019 22:10

Hallo ! I have an old ( from 1956 ? ) turntable with possibility to put several records above each other ( using a
long centerpin ) . The plate turns several turns when pushed , everything is cleaned and oiled with special oil . Old grease cleaned first . The turntable has a "stepped" axis on the engine and a 30 mm rubbercoated wheel between the motor and the plate . This wheel is cleaned with alcohol . My problem is that the speed is only 60-65 turns in the 78
gear and at 45 , 33 and 16 the speed is lower too . My only guesses is that the motor runs too slow ...... what do you think ? I am very happy if you could give me some advice . The motor is in a perforated cage and I don´t know how to take away that cage to be able to clean and oil the shaft ........ regards Stewen

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by edradour » 15 Oct 2019 00:07

Might have been for export to the US? 60Hz AC over there - 50Hz here - could explain the consistent slower speeds. Check the details (if still there) for mains frequency and look for a tap on the motor - might be adjustable.

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by KentT » 15 Oct 2019 13:54

Canada would be more likely if 60 Hertz was the issue. Philips did sell their line in Canada then. Norelco would be the US brand name which mainly sold very few save for loudspeakers until the 1970's.

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by circularvibes » 15 Oct 2019 16:14

When you cleaned and oiled the motor, did you give a couple of sharp taps with a hard tool while it was running? That can reseat the bearings perendicular to the motor shaft.

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Post by Stewen » 15 Oct 2019 17:18

Thanks for Your answers . No I didn´t tap the motor ...... good point ! I found the two skrews holding the motorcage.
Took off the cage and oiled the engine a little more precisely . Then I losened the four plastic skrews in the corners to be able to lift up the chassis from the woodenframethe chassis was resting on. That gave much more room to work with the chassis . The 26,1 mm rubbercoated " in between driving wheel " showed two small "incuts" or damages . Guess they has been from the motor running and the "plate" stuck , perhaps due to old hard grease mixed with dust . I managed to remove the wheel and put it in a drillingmachine with the speed set to 2800 rpm. With a file for small metalwork I filed it down to 25,7 mm . That took away the damages . A spring that presses the wheel against both the motorshaft and the large plate got some increased tension as I suspected bad contact between the shaft and the little wheel . To my surprise ...... I never worked with turntables before .... the speed is now much more near 78 rpm
and an old record from the midfifties with Nat King Cole sounds very good through a repaired radio , Philips BS351AF.
Best regards Stewen in Sweden

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by circularvibes » 15 Oct 2019 17:58

Glad you got it working better. Enjoy!

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by edradour » 15 Oct 2019 19:18

Good news!! Hope you weren't confused by the two meanings of the word 'tap' in our replies?? :D :D

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Re: Philips type AG 1014/19

Post by circularvibes » 15 Oct 2019 19:51

No kidding edradour! I should have been more specific.

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