SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

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SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by terzinator » 28 Aug 2019 19:25

Anyone have any recommendations/experience with headshells other than the stock SME "swiss cheese" headshell? They are good because they are light, but many say they have excess resonance, they're "chimey", etc...

Any ideas?

Always amusing to experiment, right?

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by lenjack » 28 Aug 2019 20:25

Too bad we can't ABX them. I suspect we'd find little or no difference if we could.

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by chiz » 28 Aug 2019 21:24

There are some measurements of headshell resonances here including the SME 3009:
http://korfaudio.com/blog (scroll down to "Headshell Measurements")
http://korfaudio.com/blog55 (SME 3009)

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by abs1 » 28 Aug 2019 22:37

If I correctly understand what you're asking any of the headshells that are described as a "standard SME mount" will fit. There are many of them available ranging from cheapo discount specials up through branded top drawer models from Ortofon and the like.

You'll be able to select a headshell that weighs from 5g through 15g or more, depending on your needs. E-bay probably shows many of them on their site.

Cheers,
Al

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by lenjack » 28 Aug 2019 23:01

The standard "" is what is used on your typical curved - usually, S or J - shaped arms. Of course, the actual SME headshell for it's curved arms, will most definitely NOT be an inexpensive piece.

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by chiz » 28 Aug 2019 23:16

If light weight is important, the Denon PCL-5 or the ADC with the curved finger lift might be good alternatives.

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Post by lenjack » 28 Aug 2019 23:21

Weren't all the ADC headshells made for straight arms?

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Post by chiz » 28 Aug 2019 23:36

lenjack wrote:
28 Aug 2019 23:21
Weren't all the ADC headshells made for straight arms?
I have a couple like this, they weigh about 6g without the leads:
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Post by lenjack » 29 Aug 2019 00:49

I gladly stand corrected. I was thinking of all the many offset ones they made.

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Post by jackie » 29 Aug 2019 14:06

Ortofon make a great rigid one if you find any

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by DeepEnd » 29 Aug 2019 19:21

chiz wrote:
28 Aug 2019 23:36
lenjack wrote:
28 Aug 2019 23:21
Weren't all the ADC headshells made for straight arms?
I have a couple like this, they weigh about 6g without the leads:
adc_1.jpg
This is the later ADC headshell and isn’t quite as stiff as the earlier LMG1. The magnesium is rather more self damping than the SME type.


I used one of these on a Rega R200 rather than the, very similar to SME, perforated Acos/Rega headshell. They still crop up on auction sites.
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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by donovan » 23 Oct 2019 20:56

chiz wrote:
28 Aug 2019 23:36
lenjack wrote:
28 Aug 2019 23:21
Weren't all the ADC headshells made for straight arms?
I have a couple like this, they weigh about 6g without the leads:
adc_1.jpg
So this is the earlier and lighter version of Genuine ADC Magnesium Headshell?

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by totem » 24 Oct 2019 00:26

SME also made a non Swiss Cheese version S3 right after the classic SPU shape and it was quite solid
and heavier than the later produced S2 which are known to resonate.

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by chiz » 24 Oct 2019 00:57

donovan wrote:
23 Oct 2019 20:56
So this is the earlier and lighter version of Genuine ADC Magnesium Headshell?
If I understand DeepEnd's post correctly then the one I have is later than the LMG-1 and yes, lighter but not as rigid.

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Re: SME 3009 headshell alternatives beyond swiss cheese

Post by DeepEnd » 24 Oct 2019 06:41

chiz wrote:
24 Oct 2019 00:57
donovan wrote:
23 Oct 2019 20:56
So this is the earlier and lighter version of Genuine ADC Magnesium Headshell?
If I understand DeepEnd's post correctly then the one I have is later than the LMG-1 and yes, lighter but not as rigid.
Yes later, slightly lighter and very slightly less rigid. The lift on the LMG1 being quite long and right at the end caused problems on a few decks so the later design moved it.

Still quite a good headshell though.

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