First turntable

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Jaco5
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First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 19 Jul 2019 11:10

Good morning, I'm new to this wonderful hobby and I'd want to buy a new turntable. I can spend up to 200 euros (I'm in Italy rn) and I should also buy some good powered speakers bc I can't afford spending money on an amp. Any advice?

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Re: First turntable

Post by Solist » 19 Jul 2019 11:19

Where are you located?

Buy used, for 200€ its hard to get something new that you wont want to upgrade in the next couple of months.

You will also need a phono preamp.

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Re: First turntable

Post by AudioFeline » 20 Jul 2019 09:27

Welcome to VinylEngine, Jaco5!

I would consider something second-hand to get better value for your money, and also budge to replace the stylus on it (never trust what you get with pre-owned). However, you still may not be able to get a very good quality turntable, and may end up being disillusioned with the sound of records as a result.

I would suggest enjoying digital sourced music for the present, and save your money to get a really good turntable that will let you really enjoy the music from records. Getting something cheap will end up being a false economy.

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Re: First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 20 Jul 2019 21:28

I'll look on Ebay and maybe I'll go to my local hifi shop. Thanks!

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Re: First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 20 Jul 2019 21:38

Are Technics linear tracking tts any good?

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Re: First turntable

Post by KentT » 20 Jul 2019 22:55

They range from barely decent, to very nice depending on model. And also suffer from the T4p mount cartridge only problem (there's only two makes currently manufacturing them, Audio-Technica and Grado). And genuine styli for many of the better cartridges are getting harder to find, and/or expensive.

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Re: First turntable

Post by lenjack » 20 Jul 2019 23:29

As far as a phono preamp. you will only need one if your amp or receiver does NOT have a phono input.

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Re: First turntable

Post by cafe latte » 20 Jul 2019 23:40

If you can get one a sl12100 or 12110mk2, probably 200 Euro wont be enough for it but they are great stock standard and fantastic with a few mods so it could be a turntable for a long long time. Due to them being very tough a lot got used in clubs some had a hard time, that said a lot of DJ's looked after them too. There have been millions made so finding a good one should not be a problem if you wait a little.
Any good quality belt drive turntable too used, not sure what is popular in Italy, see what you find and let us know. You will need a cheap phono preamp too, and even with powered speakers you need a preamp to turn them up and down.
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Re: First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 21 Jul 2019 16:55

I saw a pro-ject essential ii digital which has an included preamp and also a good ortofon cartridge. Used, 135 pounds w/o shipping. I live in Italy, so I might spend 30 euros for shipping. Total 170/180 euros circa. Any opinion?

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Re: First turntable

Post by Solist » 21 Jul 2019 18:41

You have plenty of options in Italy. Trust me, there was a time, I checked the second hand sites in Italy more than once daily.

So where do you live? The best offerings I have seen were around Milano. You could get a Lenco L75s, for less than 200€. It will obliterate most of the turntables made today, and It will get you off second hand sites for good. It wont come with a preamp, but you could get a budget preamp to start with and then upgrade in the future.

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Re: First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 21 Jul 2019 21:49

Fortunately I'm an hour of car travelling from Milan, so yeah. Where can I find the turntable?

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Re: First turntable

Post by Solist » 21 Jul 2019 23:38

Check on Kjiji and Subito. And ask the seller for a try before deciding to pull the trigger. If there is any noise coming from the motor or platter bearing it will need service. So ask if the turntable was serviced recently before taking the trip.

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Re: First turntable

Post by Solist » 21 Jul 2019 23:40

Oh and one more thing. Most used turntables will need a new needle. You can get those for under 20€. The Lencos in Italy mostly come with a Shure m44/m75 or m95. Those are all good cartridges.

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Re: First turntable

Post by Jaco5 » 22 Jul 2019 20:39

I don't like the look of that turntable in particular. What about the Technics SL-BD22? Sure, it has got the p mount for cartridges but there are some good ones. I found a good looking one on Subito and it's fairly cheap. Any advice on a cheap preamp?

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Re: First turntable

Post by lenjack » 22 Jul 2019 23:43

What are you connecting it. You may not need a preamp. This was mentioned several posts ago. Most often, the associated equipment already has a preamp built in.

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